Louis Farrakhan: Liberals, Thoughts?

[The Berean]

that's all very nice (as well as being very imaginative of you :chuckle: ) but he does exist and he wasn't created by "white people" and he doesn't get "trotted out", he draws attention to himself by making inflammatory statements that most of the black community ignore

I wouldn't say most. Many in the black community agree with Farrakhan on some issues. The question is WHY do they agree with him? Understanding the history of the Nation of Islam, and other black Nationalist movements, is important here. The underlying priciple and idea being propagated by people like Louis Farrakhan is that black people will NEVER ever be considered equal to white people. If a black person has been called n*gger all his life, has been denied opportunity in education and employment al his life, has been denigrated and marginalized all his life, then here comes a Black muslim telling him that he is black prince and that his history and family heritage have been destroyed by the white man and Jews, it's easy to see why this message would be quite popular among black people.

The problem is, like all extreme ideologues, Farrakhan mixes some truth with all sorts of craziness in his rhetoric. Black people have suffered greatly throughout human history. They were taken from Africa and cut off from their history and culture. They have been beaten down for so long they they started to hate themsevles. Farrakhan's predecessor, Malcolm X, gave this speech in Los Angeles in 1962 asking black people who told them to hate themselves?

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[Granite]

I wouldn't say most. Many in the black community agree with Farrakhan on some issues. The question is WHY do they agree with him? Understanding the history of the Nation of Islam, and other black Nationalist movements, is important here. The underlying priciple and idea being propagated by people like Louis Farrakhan is that black people will NEVER ever be considered equal to white people. If a black person has been called n*gger all his life, has been denied opportunity in education and employment al his life, has been denigrated and marginalized all his life, then here comes a Black muslim telling him that he is black prince and that his history and family heritage have been destroyed by the white man and Jews, it's easy to see why this message would be quite popular among black people.

The problem is, like all extreme ideologues, Farrakhan mixes some truth with all sorts of craziness in his rhetoric. Black people have suffered greatly throughout human history. They were taken from Africa and cut off from their history and culture. They have been beaten down for so long they they started to hate themsevles. Farrakhan's predecessor, Malcolm X, gave this speech in Los Angeles in 1962 asking black people who told them to hate themselves?

.

And when Malcolm changed...look where they got him.

Farrakhan's a nut and racist crank. But whenever he opens his mouth the people he's trying to rile oblige him by giving him air time. It's a racket and a media tango.

 

[The Berean]

And when Malcolm changed...look where they got him.

Malcolm left the Nation of Islam because Malcolm wanted to gun down police officers who had killed several Black Muslims at a mosque in Los Angeles. Elijiah Muhammed said no.

Farrakhan's a nut and racist crank. But whenever he opens his mouth the people he's trying to rile oblige him by giving him air time. It's a racket and a media tango.

No disagreement there.

 

[Granite]

Malcolm left the Nation of Islam because Malcolm wanted to gun down police officers who had killed several Black Muslims at a mosque in Los Angeles. Elijiah Muhammed said no.

Ummmmmmmmm...

No.

 

[republicanchick]

This man has publicly called for Blacks to murder Whites and especially Police Officers.
If a White leader did this same thing would he/she still be loose?
This is unadulterated racism and it is already having an impact on race relations.
What is the Liberal response to this?

Black lives matter


Deal with it



unborn children

No


Deal with it

(waxing sardonic of course)

 

[rexlunae]

Carson's yet another grifter who's running a book tour, not a presidential campaign. They keep falling for these suckers election in election out.

I'm not sure. I think he may have legitimately lost his mind. But he sure knows how to get camera time for free.

 

[rexlunae]

that's all very nice (as well as being very imaginative of you :chuckle: ) but he does exist and he wasn't created by "white people" and he doesn't get "trotted out", he draws attention to himself by making inflammatory statements that most of the black community ignore

But it's mostly white people who support him. You can always find a black person to say crazy, foolish, and self-accusatory things in the GOP, but it draws from a tiny and extreme minority of black experiences.

 

[The Berean]

But it's mostly white people who support him. You can always find a black person to say crazy, foolish, and self-accusatory things in the GOP, but it draws from a tiny and extreme minority of black experiences.

Mostly white people support Louis Farrakhan? Wait, What? :liberals:

 

[bybee]

But it's mostly white people who support him. You can always find a black person to say crazy, foolish, and self-accusatory things in the GOP, but it draws from a tiny and extreme minority of black experiences.

White people support him? That is curious. He hates white people.

 

[rexlunae]

Mostly white people support Louis Farrakhan? Wait, What? :liberals:

White people support him? That is curious. He hates white people.

Heh, you know, I misread what ok doser said, in that I initially thought he was talking about Ben Carson. Sorry guys, my mistake.

 

[bybee]

Heh, you know, I misread what ok doser said, in that I initially thought he was talking about Ben Carson. Sorry guys, my mistake.

No problem! You are usually so lucid that I was bewildered!

 

[Town Heretic]

Heh, you know, I misread what ok doser said, in that I initially thought he was talking about Ben Carson. Sorry guys, my mistake.

Admitting a mistake...I think they ban you for that. :shocked:

But I might be mistaken...shoot. :noid:

 

[Arthur Brain]

Admitting a mistake...I think they ban you for that. :shocked:

But I might be mistaken...shoot. :noid:

Talibanned...?

What?

:liberals:

 

[Granite]

Mostly white people support Louis Farrakhan? Wait, What? :liberals:

If by "support" you mean "free publicity" then...arguably.:chuckle:

 

[ok doser]

I don't care how many "acceptable negroes" you would vote for, if you invent a paranoid conspiracy theory about the origin of our first black President, you're a racist and an idiot

I wanted to come back to this to ask the obvious question:

if I'm a racist but I support and respect ben carson, who is black, what race am I prejudiced against?


the "race" of obama? :freak:

is bammy his very own race now?

 

[ok doser]

I wouldn't say most.

and I shouldn't have either - that's what I get for multitasking :doh:


the point I was working toward was that the black community is not very vocal about objecting to his rhetoric, imo


much like the muslim community wrt Islamic extremism/terrorism

 

[glorydaz]

Are you guys really this out of touch and paranoid

I'm out of touch, but not paranoid. I just figure the way things are going it makes sense. If I'm right, you can eat your words and I'll settle for that.

or do you just like saying wacky silly stuff?

I love saying whacky silly stuff. I keep my grandson in stitches. Anyone older than five, though, usually just gives me an eye roll. :idunno:

 

[quip]

This man has publicly called for Blacks to murder Whites and especially Police Officers.
If a White leader did this same thing would he/she still be loose?
This is unadulterated racism and it is already having an impact on race relations.
What is the Liberal response to this?

Some enthusiastic Christians call for the public execution of homosexuals.

Would I be making a blanket assumption by imply all conservatives are in support of such extreme action?

Of course I would.

 

[bybee]

Some enthusiastic Christians call for the public execution of homosexuals.

Would I be making a blanket assumption by imply all conservatives are in support of such extreme action?

Of course I would.

I was not making a blanket assumption. I am asking a question about the specific actions of one man.

 

[glorydaz]

I was not making a blanket assumption. I am asking a question about the specific actions of one man.

Libs just hate specifics.