ECT "Lordship 'Salvation'"-perverting the gospel of Christ
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Whose faith? You weren't born 2000 years ago. :dizzy: You are saved when you believe (Eph 2:8-9, Ac 17:26-27).
See:
Is God Outside of Time? Not according to the Bible by Bob Enyart
Is that a 'yes'? :chz4brnz:
:yawn: God decides if you're the real deal (Eph 4:21).
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Can a person live like the devil and still be saved?
Wrong interpretation-addressed many times on TOL, but your father the devil tells you to ignore it.
heir
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His faith and work in our place 2000 years ago when God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself not imputing our trespasses (Romans 4:25 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV) is put to our account when we believe, yes (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). I've not said anything different. If you didn't have a comprehension problem you would see that is what the scripture TO us tells us. You should stop fighting those who testify the truth.
:rotfl: quoting men who don't even believe they have a "the Bible" won't get you anywhere with me.
Is that a punt? Rhetorical q-what sin/sins?
"Genuine repentance knows that the evil of sin must be forsaken "-the castrator
Tell all of TOL, just how "genuine" you are, with specifics, and tell us the sins for which the Lord Jesus Christ did not die, the ones for which you must "forsake."
Forsake sin? You have forsaken all of your sin/sins? I haven't. Go ahead, perverter, and, on record, for all of TOL to views, and assert that you have.
And tell us, if you must "forsake your sins," the reason the Lord Jesus Christ died? Unpack it for us. Tell us this "good news."
Lay out the reason for "forsaking sin/sins," as pertaining to justification.
Let me guess: The Lord Jesus Christ died for only the sins others commit, not yours, as you are a dirty rat, but think, "At least I'm cleaner than my fellow rats."
What sin/sins? The Lord Jesus Christ died for every last one of them, from cutting someone off in traffic, to murdering someone. Every last one of them-all tresspasses forgiven. All of them. They are in hell, never to be brought up again.
Good news.
Not a peep, from another child of the devil.
Puhhhhhhraaaaaazzzzzzzzzz Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd, musty!!!! They should not be messin' with the Laaaawd's anointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Laawd needs us!!!!!!!!!! Weeza fixxin' up this earth/graveyard,along with the UN, to prepare the way for the Laaaawd's second coming!!!! Do I hear an "Amen," saints!!!!!??????????
Well, Musty, the Laaawd spoke a word of faith to me recently, and told me, that he is about to bring about a second anointing/wave of the Holy Ghost, that will make Pentecost look like a Led Zepelin concert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give the Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd a shout!!!!!!!!!!!!
musterion
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Did He say if He'll be playing Kashmir? Our "Holy Hands Up Prayze and Wership Band" already got the chords.
God's Truth
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That is grace, but NO ONE ENTERS it without faith that Jesus blood washes away the sins we repent of doing.
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The gospel has been preached since Jesus walked the earth...one must come to Jesus to have forgiveness of sins.
The wolves suggest/assert that the above is Paul's warning, to check to see if you are saved. That is, the most carnal bunch of Christians, should examine themselves, to see if they "passed the test." No, when Paul told them to “examine” themselves, he was only arguing, in defense of his apostleship, which was constantly being questioned-he was confronting his critics,responding to those who would "check him out"/question him/examine him.....
1 Cor. 9 KJV
1 Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? 2 If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
3 Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,
The context of 2 Cor. 13:5 KJV was not doubting the carnal Corinthians' salvation-he always referred to thenm as "saints." He wrote the passage, because they were questioning his authority/apostleship....
2 Cor. 13 KJV
3 since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you.
You left out the verses that proceed 2 Cor. 13:5 KJV.
Thus, Paul's point is that if they were “in the faith,” it proved the proof that he was an apostle, for he was the one that led them to the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Cor. 9 KJV
2 If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
Thus, since these carnal Corinthians were “in the Lord” and “in the faith,” was the evidence of his apostleship-2 Cor. 13:3 KJV, removing the/their doubt.
That is the context.
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God's Truth
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Paul did not preach a different gospel and so condemn himself.
There is only one gospel that saves, and it is forgiveness of sins through Jesus.
Mark 2:7 "Why does this fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
One must come to God through Jesus to have forgiveness of sins, it was preached by Jesus when he walked the earth.
Luke 5:21 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
It was also taught by the other Apostles, including Paul.
Derf
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Every 4 years. Getting ready to do it again.
God's Truth
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Did you put Heir and John W. on your heretic list, or are you too afraid to do that? haaa
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God's Truth
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You are just as guilty, for you enforce it.
:yawn: Eph 5:11