LA doctor says hydroxychloroquine treatment cures coronavirus in 8 to 12 hours.

[User Name]

[h=1]Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19: What We Know Right Now | SciShow News[/h] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6j4JITJoE

 

[eider]

Trump really wants you to take this drug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJXUX1XmfY

President Trump is going to be remembered in connection with Covid-19 in ways which he would prefer not to be, is my guess.
I don't think that President Trump cares much about or for people.

I'm still waiting to discover if the UK's black populations are being affected by this virus in the same way and numbers that American black populations are. There's this feeling.......

 

[eider]

In fairness I think those are the less common side effects of the drug although certainly serious obviously. One other aspect of this is that people who are taking this drug for ailments its been proven to help with are running short because of the demand and there's yet to be any conclusive evidence that it's effective against Covid-19.

Dreadful. A leader can say a sentence and cause serious danger to many malaria (?) patients, or even a single name and cause additional insecurity for millions of Asian-Americans. Most leaders try to be more careful, I think.

How's Boris this morning? He was taking short walks yesterday evening. I never imagined Boris to be the type of build to play tennis well.,.,,,,

 

[Aimiel]

POTD!!! Awesome job, ffreeloader!

If you had actually read the entire documentation available on this thread, and then done even a small bit of outside research, you would know that the treatment using zinc and hydroxychloroqine is based upon proven medical facts. But could you be bothered to even take a half hour to investigate? Nope. You were in just too much of a hurry to condemn this as experimentation unknown to anyone. As far as I'm concerned your rejection is all based upon your TDS.

Hydroxychloroquine is known to open the cell wall of viruses by providing a pathway through the cell wall. It's been around since the 1940s and has been studied over and over, and over again. It is very well known how it works. Zinc has been around since creation. Zinc has had hundreds if not thousands of studies done on it's medicinal properties. Zinc is proven to be an effective treatment in many diseases. This is all information that has been known for decades. It's nothing new. It's nothing that has never been studied.

These doctors are using well known tools. They are just using them in a new combination. Zinc isn't going to harm anyone at the dosage levels it is being used at. It would take a whole lot more zinc than that to ever come close to reaching a toxicity level. It accomplishes the destruction of the virus. Hydroxychloroquine doesn't actually do anything in the treatment other than allow the zinc to pass the cell wall of the virus. This aspect of hydroxychloroquine is it's main function in many of it's uses. It's known to help destroy viruses as it is used to treat malaria, Lupus, and one other virus based illness I can't remember off the top of my head. And it is known to do very little harm as there are few side effects from it's usage.

Try doing a little objective thought, a little research on your own instead of letting politicians and the media to tell you what to think, rather than just letting known corrupt entities tell you what to think. Think, Artie, think. Use your head for something other than a hat rack.

What you are seeing in the objections from doctors, media, etc.... is the voice of big pharma. If you actually read the article you know that this is a dirt cheap treatment. It's total cost for drugs is only $12. Thus, it doesn't make the pharmaceutical companies billions upon billions of dollars. And therefore doctors can't get large kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies for prescribing it. It effectually stops the gravy train of corruption. Look at what the Democrats and doctors like Fauci are pushing. Very expensive treatments ranging from the hundreds to the thousands of dollars in cost to the patient. Think there is any possibility of corruption in those recommendations as the revenue stream from those treatments will be massive. Think, Artie, think.

And the criticisms of Trump that he's trying to make someone very rich by pushing a treatment that costs all of $12? It's nothing but a flat out lie. It's all fake news. It's all inspired by the desire to get rid of Trump. Ask yourself the question why someone would make an accusation that is so provably false while they are advocating treatments that are going to be very expensive and generate massive revenue streams. In other words, they are doing exactly what they accuse Trump of doing.

:first:

 

[ok doser]

President Trump is going to be remembered ...

... by his irrationally obsessive haters exactly as you would expect - irrationally and obsessively

I don't think that President Trump cares much about or for people.

of course you don't - you're an irrational obsessive Trump hater who deliberately seeks out ways to stoke that irrational obsessive hatred on a daily basis, primarily through the MSM on the telly

I'm still waiting to discover if the UK's black populations are being affected by this virus in the same way and numbers that American black populations are. There's this feeling.......

yes, it's called "racism"


meanwhile, if you want to consider a different perspective on the phenomenon that is Trump, I encourage you to give this a listen:

 

[ok doser]

Dreadful. A leader can say a sentence and cause serious danger to many malaria (?) patients, or even a single name and cause additional insecurity for millions of Asian-Americans. Most leaders try to be more careful, I think.

and of course you won't recognize the irrationality, the obsessiveness in those silly statements


rage on, trump hater, rage on

 

[ok doser]

LOL. Well, we know jgarden, artie, user name, and others will do it anyway. The levels of TDS irrationality going around are incredible as is the level of self-inflicted ignorance.

not sure if you saw this as it's in the "and the rest" forum, but it was predictable: https://theologyonline.com/forum/pol...21#post2744621

 

[User Name]

I'm still waiting to discover if the UK's black populations are being affected by this virus in the same way and numbers that American black populations are. There's this feeling.......

You may have heard that there was a rumour going round in the black community here that melanin made black people immune to the coronavirus. I kid you not: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...t-coronavirus/

So that kind of ignorance combined with already high levels of "at risk" behaviours and preconditions means that black Americans are suffering from the impact of the virus at considerably higher rates than other populations.

I would indeed be interested to find out how the black population in the UK responds to the virus and see if better behaviours and choices lead to better outcomes there.

 

[eider]

You may have heard that there was a rumour going round in the black community here that melanin made black people immune to the coronavirus. I kid you not: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...t-coronavirus/

So that kind of ignorance combined with already high levels of "at risk" behaviours and preconditions means that black Americans are suffering from the impact of the virus at considerably higher rates than other populations.

I would indeed be interested to find out how the black population in the UK responds to the virus and see if better behaviours and choices lead to better outcomes there.

Well you got the above badly wrong. And you got my feelings wrong as well.

I was only interested in the fact that black communities are suffering from an increased infection rate. The reference above that they have relaxed because they thought that their melanin made them immune is rot, and I know that now.

The facts here are simply that a higher % of our black doctors and nurses are dying from the virus than other health workers. So this points to the possibility that black folks are more susceptible to covid-19, and not that they are ignorant.

Now have you taken that simple fact in? Our black medical staff show that it is nothing to do with ignorance.

Our doctors and nurses are well qualified, and very very brave. That especially includes our black medical staff.

 

[User Name]

The facts here are simply that a higher % of our black doctors and nurses are dying from the virus than other health workers. So this points to the possibility that black folks are more susceptible to covid-19, and not that they are ignorant.

Now have you taken that simple fact in? Our black medical staff show that it is nothing to do with ignorance.

It appears to be the case that men are more vulnerable to COVID-19 than women, and this is apparently due to the fact that having two X-chromosomes provides women with greater immune response than men (source: NPR). But what mechanism could make one race more vulnerable than another, aside from differences in behavior that make one group more "at risk' than another, or preexisting conditions that are more prevalent in one group rather than another?

 

[ok doser]

Well you got the above badly wrong. And you got my feelings wrong as well.

I was only interested in the fact that black communities are suffering from an increased infection rate. The reference above that they have relaxed because they thought that their melanin made them immune is rot, and I know that now.

The facts here are simply that a higher % of our black doctors and nurses are dying from the virus than other health workers. So this points to the possibility that black folks are more susceptible to covid-19, and not that they are ignorant.

Now have you taken that simple fact in? Our black medical staff show that it is nothing to do with ignorance.

Our doctors and nurses are well qualified, and very very brave. That especially includes our black medical staff.

You're really really triggered by any suggestion that the black American community might have been ignorant when it came to this specific false idea.

I blame Trump

because racism

 

[ok doser]

perhaps this pic of a Gucci sweater will cheer you up!

Spoiler

 

[ok doser]

The facts here are simply that a higher % of our black doctors and nurses are dying from the virus than other health workers. So this points to the possibility that black folks are more susceptible to covid-19 ...

funny, I would think that it would point to the possibility that the UK is inherently racist and tends to disproportionately put its immigrant population, including health care workers, in harms way.

 

[eider]

It appears to be the case that men are more vulnerable to COVID-19 than women, and this is apparently due to the fact that having two X-chromosomes provides women with greater immune response than men (source: NPR). But what mechanism could make one race more vulnerable than another, aside from differences in behavior that make one group more "at risk' than another, or preexisting conditions that are more prevalent in one group rather than another?

Here in the UK our Black medical staff seem to be more at risk. Fact.
Here in the UK our Black medical staff our as qualified and levelled headed as all others. Fact.

Ergo------ it looks as if Black people are more at risk. And we already know that some races are more immune to various diseases than others.

 

[ok doser]

Here in the UK our Black medical staff seem to be more at risk. Fact.
Here in the UK our Black medical staff our as qualified and levelled headed as all others. Fact.

Ergo------ it looks as if Black people are more at risk ...

correction - it looks as if black people in the UK are more at risk

perhaps the pertinent aspect there isn't "black" but "in the UK"

 

[Jonahdog]

correction - it looks as if black people in the UK are more at risk

perhaps the pertinent aspect there isn't "black" but "in the UK"

Actually ok, my doctor daughter and her doctor husband, both infectious disease specialists at NYC hospitals report the same thing, black, Latino and Hispanic all appear more at risk. Although I suspect she would describe those comments as "preliminary" and worthy of further study before jumping to conclusions. But I will be happy to report their final determination when they tell me. If it turns out to be true then you can substitute US for UK in post #53. I shall report back

 

[ok doser]

Actually ok, my doctor daughter and her doctor husband, both infectious disease specialists at NYC hospitals report the same thing, black, Latino and Hispanic all appear more at risk. Although I suspect she would describe those comments as "preliminary" and worthy of further study before jumping to conclusions. But I will be happy to report their final determination when they tell me. If it turns out to be true then you can substitute US for UK in post #53. I shall report back

Oh, I'm familiar with the increased risk to african-americans

obviously, in Amerikkka, that's caused by Trump and racism (i know - redundant)

And white privilege. Mustn't forget white privilege.


but in the UK?

Trump and racist Amerikkkans again?

 

[Jonahdog]

Oh, I'm familiar with the increased risk to african-americans

What might it be caused by?

 

[Gary K]

I googled the single word 'Hydroxychloroquine'. Here is what came up first:-
Hydroxychloroquine Side Effects
Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin.
blurred vision or other vision changes.
chest discomfort, pain, or tightness.
cough or hoarseness.
dark urine.
decreased urination.
defective color vision.
difficulty breathing.

Hydroxychloroquine suppresses the immune system and should not be combined with drugs that also suppress the immune system or live vaccines.

Suppression of immune system + difficulty in breathing + the rest.
Please can I be excused from purchasing or taking this..... please? :dizzy:

How old are you? A preteen who has never thought about this subject before? Let's take a look at a very common drug that has been through a lot of testing yet carries potentially fatal side effects.

NSAIDS can have severe side effects yet we find them all over the place. Doctors prescribe them regularly, and millions of people take them without a prescription. The chances of you yourself taking them are very high.

For the Consumer

Applies to celecoxib: oral capsule
Warning

Oral route (Capsule)
NSAIDs cause an increased risk of serious cardiovascular thrombotic events, including myocardial infarction, and stroke, which can be fatal. This risk may occur early in the treatment and may increase with duration of use. Celecoxib is contraindicated in the setting of coronary artery bypass graft surgery. NSAIDs cause an increased risk of serious gastrointestinal (GI) adverse events including bleeding, ulceration, and perforation of the stomach or intestines, which can be fatal. These events can occur at any time during use and without warning symptoms. Elderly patients and patients with a prior history of peptic ulcer disease and/or GI bleeding are at greater risk for serious GI events.

Those are far worse side effects than hydroxychloronquine. But that's just a very small percentage of the side effects of nsaids, and celebrex in particular.

This excerpt is only a very small part of the list of side effects for Celebrex. But the warning shown here is applicable to all nsaids including the over-the-counter ones sold. In other words, you can kill yourself taking something you assume is harmless because doctors presrcibe it and the FDA has approved it for self-prescription.

For the rest of the long list of side effects of celebrex click on the following link. https://www.drugs.com/sfx/celebrex-side-effects.html

Celebrex and Vioxx were released in the early 2000s after being thoroughly "studied". Yet they were recalled only a year or two after being released because there was a lot of people using them who had heart attacks, sometimes fatal heart attacks. And that was after "scientific studies". The studies were useless as Celebrex and Vioxx killed a whole lot of people. They were pulled from the market and then released again after a period of time.

NSAIDS are just one drug regularly prescribed by doctors and regularly self-prescribed by indivduals. Get a PDR and start reading. You'll find a long list of severe side effects for many, many drugs.

 

[Gary K]

not sure if you saw this as it's in the "and the rest" forum, but it was predictable: https://theologyonline.com/forum/pol...21#post2744621

Yeah, I've been aware of Crowder's information for a few weeks.

This story was spun so badly by the mockingbird media that it was told as nothing but an outright lie. You think that will lead any of our resident lefties to start to think about how much garbage they accept on a daily basis? I doubt it.