joe got caught!
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Apparently, Putin shot his bolt with the email scheme. And with the digital signatures on the documents showing suspicious signs, and with Rudy changing his story about how they were obtained, there's sufficient evidence for the FBI to look into It:
US investigates if recently found emails are tied to Russian disinformation effort targeting Biden
https://www.wishtv.com/news/politics...rgeting-biden/
Do you wonder what's going to turn up when the FBI labs get into it? Not that it matters much. When the FBI announced they were investigating Hillary Clinton the way they are now investigating Trump, it didn't hurt her any, did it?
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Jerry Shugart
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all the monkeys continue to see no evil and hear no evil because they all have trump derangement syndrome
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
All you do is babble about monkeys.
Jerry Shugart
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annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
:chuckle: It's like you're fixated on the word, you've said it so many times. Does it comfort you?
President Donald Trump‘s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, is under scrutiny for having worked with an active Russian agent, according to the United States Department of the Treasury. Andriy Derkach, a Ukrainian parliamentarian, was just placed on a list of “Russia-linked election interference actors” for having been in close connection with Russian Intelligence Services. The finding, which was likely discovered by U.S. intelligence investigations, indicates that Derkach has engaged or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference with the upcoming 2020 U.S. presidential election. Officials told Congress that Derkach is spreading claims about corruption in an attempt to sabotage Joe Biden‘s election campaign. These reports follow previous accounts from the summer in which the U.S. intelligence community disclosed that Derkach was assisting with Moscow’s ongoing efforts to weaken Biden’s campaign.
But it appears as though Derkach has not been working alone. Before Trump’s impeachment last year, Giuliani traveled to Ukraine to meet with Derkach and other Ukrainians ...
In the past year, Giuliani has assisted the “Russian agent” in multiple press conferences that sought to further expose Biden and his supposed corrupt actions. At these conferences, Derkach played tapes of Biden talking to the Ukrainian president, although these tapes do not reveal incriminating information. Rather, these conferences were merely part of Derkach and Giuliani’s continued attempt to assert claims of corruption against Trump’s presidential opponent.
Giuliani claims he had no idea that Derkach was a Russian agent, and in an interview on Saturday on AM Joy, Trump’s personal attorney refused to answer questions on how it was possible that he was so unaware of Derkach’s political relationships.
This recent news comes as a major step by the United States government to publicly fight Russia’s continued attempts to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Although Trump has repeatedly denied any claims that Russia has interfered in the 2016 election, United States intelligence services continue to point to information that reveals otherwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ch/ar-BB18YsrZ
Giuliani also has recently changed his story as to how he obtained supposed emails from Hunter Biden. There are inconsistencies in both stories, and digital inspection of the documents turns up suspicious signs of tampering.
What caught my eye immediately was the tremendous clarity of the text, when compared to the “VP” gmail icon in the upper right-hand corner. Something appeared to be off, and upon further examination, it was. Look what happens when you zoom into the PDF file (see image below). The text in the file remains crystal clear, yet the gmail icon for “VP” gets extremely pixelated. Even in the un-zoomed version, the icon is blatantly pixelated.
This is the hallmark of email alterations. There is no reason that the gmail icon should be of a different resolution than the text on the same document, unless of course the icon or the text were photoshopped in.
But to make matters even more interesting; if you view the “VP” icon, you will also notice that the right side of it is flat, and there is a very light gray color around it which does not match the background of the document. The gray background aligns perfectly with where the would-be circle is abruptly squared off. This confirms that someone used an editing tool to cut this icon out and then paste it onto a new document.
https://eddiekrassenstein.medium.com...d-2d55b08140cc
This one has the potential to put Rudy in prison, if the initial findings hold up under inspection. And the FBI is working on it.
But it appears as though Derkach has not been working alone. Before Trump’s impeachment last year, Giuliani traveled to Ukraine to meet with Derkach and other Ukrainians ...
In the past year, Giuliani has assisted the “Russian agent” in multiple press conferences that sought to further expose Biden and his supposed corrupt actions. At these conferences, Derkach played tapes of Biden talking to the Ukrainian president, although these tapes do not reveal incriminating information. Rather, these conferences were merely part of Derkach and Giuliani’s continued attempt to assert claims of corruption against Trump’s presidential opponent.
Giuliani claims he had no idea that Derkach was a Russian agent, and in an interview on Saturday on AM Joy, Trump’s personal attorney refused to answer questions on how it was possible that he was so unaware of Derkach’s political relationships.
This recent news comes as a major step by the United States government to publicly fight Russia’s continued attempts to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Although Trump has repeatedly denied any claims that Russia has interfered in the 2016 election, United States intelligence services continue to point to information that reveals otherwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ch/ar-BB18YsrZ
Giuliani also has recently changed his story as to how he obtained supposed emails from Hunter Biden. There are inconsistencies in both stories, and digital inspection of the documents turns up suspicious signs of tampering.
What caught my eye immediately was the tremendous clarity of the text, when compared to the “VP” gmail icon in the upper right-hand corner. Something appeared to be off, and upon further examination, it was. Look what happens when you zoom into the PDF file (see image below). The text in the file remains crystal clear, yet the gmail icon for “VP” gets extremely pixelated. Even in the un-zoomed version, the icon is blatantly pixelated.
This is the hallmark of email alterations. There is no reason that the gmail icon should be of a different resolution than the text on the same document, unless of course the icon or the text were photoshopped in.
But to make matters even more interesting; if you view the “VP” icon, you will also notice that the right side of it is flat, and there is a very light gray color around it which does not match the background of the document. The gray background aligns perfectly with where the would-be circle is abruptly squared off. This confirms that someone used an editing tool to cut this icon out and then paste it onto a new document.
https://eddiekrassenstein.medium.com...d-2d55b08140cc
This one has the potential to put Rudy in prison, if the initial findings hold up under inspection. And the FBI is working on it.
Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, said his own attorney, Robert Costello, obtained the material from the owner of a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware, after Hunter Biden allegedly left it there for months. Giuliani provided the material to the New York Post on Sunday, and the Post began running stories about the supposed documents this week.
But the owner of the computer store, John Paul MacIsaac, was unable and unwilling to answer key questions about how the laptop supposedly arrived in his store, and eventually, how the data was shared with Giuliani. CBS News interviewed MacIsaac for almost two hours on Wednesday and throughout the interview he contradicted himself about his motivations, raising questions about the truthfulness of one of the central figures in the story.
MacIsaac told CBS News he first turned over the hard drive to the FBI last December during the president's impeachment, and provided a copy of its contents to Costello after becoming frustrated by the Senate trial in January. MacIsaac refused to provide key details about his interactions with Giuliani.
The Post's first story ricocheted across major social media platforms on Wednesday before Facebook and Twitter moved to block its distribution, seemingly wary of allowing the dissemination of the kind of misinformation that spread across their networks in the run-up to the 2016 election.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/
Experts immediately expressed caution given the timing of the release, just weeks before the 2020 presidential election, and the fact that the emails could not be forensically verified.
Isaac admitted to the Daily Beast he made a copy of the hard drive from Hunter’s alleged computer and handed it over to Robert Costello, the lawyer of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Social media posts made by Isaac, according to the Daily Beast, show that he voted for Trump in 2016 and remains an avid supporter to this day.
Issac also appeared to “not have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it” and could not confirm that it was actually Hunter who dropped it off, to begin with.
The story also changed repeatedly, with Issac at one point claiming he contacted law enforcement about the laptop before asserting the FBI actually reached out to him.
Issac also claimed the FBI contacted him asking for help accessing the computer’s hard drive after he allegedly handed it over.
The computer repairman also expressed concern about being murdered, referencing the Seth Rich conspiracy theory in the process.
When repeatedly asked about his relationship with Guiliani and whether he had been in contact with him prior to the laptop being dropped off, Isaac reflected. Issac eventually went on to describe Guiliani as a “lifeguard.”
“When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard,” he said.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/john-paul-issac-hunter-biden-emails/
But the owner of the computer store, John Paul MacIsaac, was unable and unwilling to answer key questions about how the laptop supposedly arrived in his store, and eventually, how the data was shared with Giuliani. CBS News interviewed MacIsaac for almost two hours on Wednesday and throughout the interview he contradicted himself about his motivations, raising questions about the truthfulness of one of the central figures in the story.
MacIsaac told CBS News he first turned over the hard drive to the FBI last December during the president's impeachment, and provided a copy of its contents to Costello after becoming frustrated by the Senate trial in January. MacIsaac refused to provide key details about his interactions with Giuliani.
The Post's first story ricocheted across major social media platforms on Wednesday before Facebook and Twitter moved to block its distribution, seemingly wary of allowing the dissemination of the kind of misinformation that spread across their networks in the run-up to the 2016 election.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/
Experts immediately expressed caution given the timing of the release, just weeks before the 2020 presidential election, and the fact that the emails could not be forensically verified.
Isaac admitted to the Daily Beast he made a copy of the hard drive from Hunter’s alleged computer and handed it over to Robert Costello, the lawyer of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Social media posts made by Isaac, according to the Daily Beast, show that he voted for Trump in 2016 and remains an avid supporter to this day.
Issac also appeared to “not have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it” and could not confirm that it was actually Hunter who dropped it off, to begin with.
The story also changed repeatedly, with Issac at one point claiming he contacted law enforcement about the laptop before asserting the FBI actually reached out to him.
Issac also claimed the FBI contacted him asking for help accessing the computer’s hard drive after he allegedly handed it over.
The computer repairman also expressed concern about being murdered, referencing the Seth Rich conspiracy theory in the process.
When repeatedly asked about his relationship with Guiliani and whether he had been in contact with him prior to the laptop being dropped off, Isaac reflected. Issac eventually went on to describe Guiliani as a “lifeguard.”
“When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard,” he said.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/john-paul-issac-hunter-biden-emails/
Jerry Shugart
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The Barbarian;n277214 And the revelation of more Russian involvement in helping Trump with the election comes at a very difficult time for Donald's campaign. [/QUOTE said:
Jerry Shugart
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you have lost touch with al reality and wouldn't know the truth if it hit you right between the eyes.
Comes down to evidence, Jerry. Who are you going to believe, American intelligence services, or Putin?
Pretty much. But most Americans have it figured out. This is exactly what Trump didn't need; reminder to America that he's in Putin's pocket.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Most Americans are concerned at least somewhat by the potential for foreign interference in November’s election, and a majority believes that Russia sought in 2016 to influence the outcome of that race, according to a new poll that underscores the anxiety and political divisions heading into the final weeks of the presidential contest.
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The poll was taken as intelligence officials warn of ongoing efforts by foreign adversaries to interfere in American politics, including a concerted Russian effort to denigrate Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. FBI Director Christopher Wray told lawmakers last month that Russia was continuing to use social media to try to influence the election, though he said officials had not seen targeting of voting system infrastructure. Officials also say they don’t have intelligence that foreign countries are targeting the vote-by-mail process.
https://apnews.com/article/election-...2af0f457ffb902
WASHINGTON (AP) — Most Americans are concerned at least somewhat by the potential for foreign interference in November’s election, and a majority believes that Russia sought in 2016 to influence the outcome of that race, according to a new poll that underscores the anxiety and political divisions heading into the final weeks of the presidential contest.
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The poll was taken as intelligence officials warn of ongoing efforts by foreign adversaries to interfere in American politics, including a concerted Russian effort to denigrate Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. FBI Director Christopher Wray told lawmakers last month that Russia was continuing to use social media to try to influence the election, though he said officials had not seen targeting of voting system infrastructure. Officials also say they don’t have intelligence that foreign countries are targeting the vote-by-mail process.
https://apnews.com/article/election-...2af0f457ffb902
Jerry Shugart
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the fbi has been proven to be comlicit in the russian hoax but you monkeys see no evil and hear no evil.
you should be ashamed of yourself.
Pretty much. But most Americans have it figured out. This is exactly what Trump didn't need; reminder to America that he's in Putin's pocket.
you remainin a state of confusion because you evidently didn'tread the muelller report.
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annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
Emails from a computer allegedly owned by Hunter Biden could be “absolutely verified beyond a shadow of a doubt” if the metadata for the files were made available to review, a cybersecurity expert told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani reportedly provided the New York Post with a copy of the hard drive the emails originated from. But he has refused to release metadata information for messages the Post described as “smoking-gun” evidence that Hunter Biden introduced a Burisma executive to his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, in 2015.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/17/h...rudy-giuliani/
Why do you suppose that Rudy refuses to let anyone see the metadata? This whole thing probably looked like a promising scam to save Trump's election. Now it's becoming just one more Trump scandal.
Poetic justice.
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani reportedly provided the New York Post with a copy of the hard drive the emails originated from. But he has refused to release metadata information for messages the Post described as “smoking-gun” evidence that Hunter Biden introduced a Burisma executive to his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, in 2015.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/17/h...rudy-giuliani/
Why do you suppose that Rudy refuses to let anyone see the metadata? This whole thing probably looked like a promising scam to save Trump's election. Now it's becoming just one more Trump scandal.
Poetic justice.
Jerry Shugart
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in your dreams.
joe refuses to deny that the emails are Hunters.
ibstead,he has been hiding for seven days.
Now it's becoming just one more Trump scandal.
Nope. In reality. Federal investigators are already on it, since the evidence suggests Russian collusion with Rudy.
He denied the supposed meeting, and close examination shows that the email had been tampered with to add and/or subtract text. He refused to deny that he told Hunter that he loved him. But that's only objectionable to Trump and others like him.
All Rudy would have to do, to clear Trump of wrongdoing, would be to release the metadata; that would settle the issue one way or the other. But Rudy refuses to do that. For reasons that are becoming quickly apparent.
Nope. In reality. Federal investigators are already on it, since the evidence suggests Russian collusion with Rudy.
He denied the supposed meeting, and close examination shows that the email had been tampered with to add and/or subtract text. He refused to deny that he told Hunter that he loved him. But that's only objectionable to Trump and others like him.
All Rudy would have to do, to clear Trump of wrongdoing, would be to release the metadata; that would settle the issue one way or the other. But Rudy refuses to do that. For reasons that are becoming quickly apparent.
Biden email episode illustrates risk to Trump from Giuliani
WASHINGTON (AP) — A New York tabloid’s puzzling account about how it acquired emails purportedly from Joe Biden’s son has raised some red flags. One of the biggest involves the source of the emails: Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani has traveled abroad looking for dirt on the Bidens, developing relationships with shadowy figures, including a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials have described as a Russian agent and part of a broader Russian effort to denigrate the Democratic presidential nominee.
Yet Giuliani says foreign sources didn’t provide the Hunter Biden emails. He says a laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and the shop owner reached out to Giuliani’s lawyer.
That hasn’t stopped the FBI from investigating whether the emails are part of a foreign influence operation. The emails have surfaced as U.S. officials have been warning that Russia, which backed Trump’s 2016 campaign through hacking of Democratic emails and a covert social media campaign, is interfering again this year. The latest episode with Giuliani underscores the risk he poses to a White House that spent years confronted by a federal investigation into whether Trump associates had coordinated with Russia.
The Washington Post reported Thursday that intelligence agencies had warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. The newspaper, citing four former officials, said that assessment was based on information including intercepted communications showing Giuliani had been in contact with people tied to Russian intelligence.
The newspaper said national security adviser Robert O’Brien had warned Trump that information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, but that Trump brushed off the warning.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-russia-024b553e9a4ffb2716286dd134876f8a
Just when Trump desperately needs to do something to close the gap with Biden, this erupts. He's back on the defensive.
WASHINGTON (AP) — A New York tabloid’s puzzling account about how it acquired emails purportedly from Joe Biden’s son has raised some red flags. One of the biggest involves the source of the emails: Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani has traveled abroad looking for dirt on the Bidens, developing relationships with shadowy figures, including a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials have described as a Russian agent and part of a broader Russian effort to denigrate the Democratic presidential nominee.
Yet Giuliani says foreign sources didn’t provide the Hunter Biden emails. He says a laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and the shop owner reached out to Giuliani’s lawyer.
That hasn’t stopped the FBI from investigating whether the emails are part of a foreign influence operation. The emails have surfaced as U.S. officials have been warning that Russia, which backed Trump’s 2016 campaign through hacking of Democratic emails and a covert social media campaign, is interfering again this year. The latest episode with Giuliani underscores the risk he poses to a White House that spent years confronted by a federal investigation into whether Trump associates had coordinated with Russia.
The Washington Post reported Thursday that intelligence agencies had warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. The newspaper, citing four former officials, said that assessment was based on information including intercepted communications showing Giuliani had been in contact with people tied to Russian intelligence.
The newspaper said national security adviser Robert O’Brien had warned Trump that information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, but that Trump brushed off the warning.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-russia-024b553e9a4ffb2716286dd134876f8a
Just when Trump desperately needs to do something to close the gap with Biden, this erupts. He's back on the defensive.