I said
Don't look at me for these discussions. If I could run Jacob off I would.
I thought my contributions to the thread
here would perhaps redeem it, or re-orient it towards more constructive discussion, hence my sharing. Since your 'spat' with Jacob is just going in circles (ad naseum) and becoming near pointless, now with name-calling, I think its reached a point of no return.
The whole things is a manmade creation anyways, as all religious systems are (a mix of history, mythology, religious parables, ethos and morals, universal principles, etc.), - the systems or schools MAY be more or less 'inspired' or 'enlightened' of course, but that is for each soul to determine in their study, research and personal preference, which is all you have at the end of the day anyways.
The bible is a potpourri of so many different ideas, concepts and traditions, from which a host of different cults build and base their religion from. To derive one special interpretation out of it all is nothing really special being subject to translation. Jacob is entitled to believe as he chooses. If you see the conversation going nowhere, or a failure to grasp basic concepts, then just cease pursuing it, or redirect the dialogue. Be creative. But demeaning a person by name calling is not going to convert him to towards considering your point of view.
Namaste