Jesus SEPARATE from Jehovah; calls Jehovah "my God."

[marhig]

:dizzy: 2 Pe 2:1

"The church in Philadelphia (3:7–13)
A. The counselor (3:7)
1. The holy and true Jesus holds the keys of David (3:7a).
2. He opens closed doors and closes open doors (3:7b).
B. The commendation (3:8)
1. Though weak, they have kept his Word (3:8a).
2. They have not denied his name (3:8b).
C. The chastening: None given.
D. The counsel (3:11): Hold on to what you have so that no one will take your crown.
E. The challenge (3:9–10, 12–13)
1. Their enemies will fall down before them (3:9) .
2. They will be kept from the hour of trial (3:10) .
3. They will become pillars in the Temple of God (3:12a).
4. They will be given new names (3:12b–13)." Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Re 3:5–13). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

As a reminder marhig is number 66 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

And those false prophets are those who got together and made up the trinity, those who taught that God is triune are false. God is one and he is the father. To believe in the trinity, is to believe in three Gods and not one. One makes one, three doesn't make one it makes three.

A false teaching by false teachers, so false that they started with a duality and started just the father and Christ and then they decided to add the Holy Spirit at a later date. This is not of God.

As for your Satan's list. That is just foolish and childish, God looks at the heart, and those who belong to him are those who do his will!

 

[God's Truth]

And those false prophets are those who got together and made up the trinity, those who taught that God is triune are false. God is one and he is the father. To believe in the trinity, is to believe in three Gods and not one. One makes one, three doesn't make one it makes three.

A false teaching by false teachers, so false that they started with a duality and started just the father and Christ and then they decided to add the Holy Spirit at a later date. This is not of God.

As for your Satan's list. That is just foolish and childish, God looks at the heart, and those who belong to him are those who do his will!

You speak for obeying Jesus, which is good, but you continue to preach against Jesus being God.

You are stumped in His Truth because you follow the teachings of mere men, and or of women.

Why do you do that?

You have left the truth for the teachings of humans.

We are to obey, and when we obey, Jesus reveals himself to us, and that is that he is the Father come in the flesh.

You, however, stay with the teachings of men who say Jesus is not God.

You chose the teachings of men who replace the teachings of Jesus.

 

[marhig]

You speak for obeying Jesus, which is good, but you continue to preach against Jesus being God.

You are stumped in His Truth because you follow the teachings of mere men, and or of women.

Why do you do that?

You have left the truth for the teachings of humans.

We are to obey, and when we obey, Jesus reveals himself to us, and that is that he is the Father come in the flesh.

You, however, stay with the teachings of men who say Jesus is not God.

You chose the teachings of men who replace the teachings of Jesus.

I think you need to re-read the Bible GT. Jesus calls God his God, and he even does this in the book of Revelation also, when he's with the father, his God! And the apostles also call God the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ! And Paul also said that the head of Christ is God. So it's quite clear that God is the God and father of Christ Jesus.

Would you like to show me where I am replacing the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of men? And where does it say in the Bible that I have to believe that Jesus is God? Because from what I've read, I'm to believe that Jesus is the son of God, and that's what I believe!

 

[God's Truth]

I think you need to re-read the Bible GT.

No, I do not need to reread the Bible. You need to believe.

You need to believe and obey.

Jesus calls God his God, and he even does this in the book of Revelation also, when he's with the father, his God!

Jesus calls himself the exact same name that God the Father is called.

Go read it again and listen more carefully.

 

[S-word]

No, I do not need to reread the Bible. You need to believe.

You need to believe and obey.



Jesus calls himself the exact same name that God the Father is called.

Go read it again and listen more carefully.

John 20: 17; Jesus says to Mary Magdalene: "Go to my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to him who is my Father and their Father, to my God and their God.

 

[God's Truth]

John 20: 17; Jesus says to Mary Magdalene: "Go to my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to him who is my Father and their Father, to my God and their God.

God the Father came as a Man, to whom do you think he should go?

 

[freelight]

The Son ever subordinate..............

The Son ever subordinate..............

Jesus calls himself the exact same name that God the Father is called.

Yes, that the Son carries the name of the Father only because he represents the Father. The Father and Son share ONE VOICE,...Jesus being the word of the LORD. God and his word are one, but God is also distinct from his word, and sends out his word thru his Messiah-Son. Take on any Christology you like,...the Son is still ever subordinate to the Father, the Son being God's AGENT. - the Messiah-Son is the Prophet of YHWH, the Angel of Great Counsel - He carries the Message of God as God's Messenger. - you can adopt any logos doctrine philosophically speaking too, its all good - God brings to pass all things thru his logic, purpose, plan, creative word, prophetic voice, intelligent design, fiat, defining will, etc.

28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

John 14:28

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, that the Son carries the name of the Father only because he represents the Father. The Father and Son share ONE VOICE,...Jesus being the word of the LORD. God and his word are one, but God is also distinct from his word, and sends out his word thru his Messiah-Son. Take on any Christology you like,...the Son is still ever subordinate to the Father, the Son being God's AGENT. - the Messiah-Son is the Prophet of YHWH, the Angel of Great Counsel - He carries the Message of God as God's Messenger. - you can adopt any logos doctrine philosophically speaking too, its all good - God brings to pass all things thru his logic, purpose, plan, creative word, prophetic voice, intelligent design, fiat, defining will, etc.

28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

John 14:28

No, the Father and the Son are not distinct/different. In fact, when you see Jesus one day, you can say, "I see the Father".

 

[S-word]

God the Father came as a Man, to whom do you think he should go?

You truly are ignorant to the truths as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, are you not?

Hebrew 10: 5 to 7; GNB Catholic Study Edition; For this reason, when Christ (The anointed one) was about to come into the world, he said to God: “You do not want sacrifices and offerings, but a body you have prepared for me (The body of the man Jesus through whom, The Son of Man, who is the Son of God, would reveal himself to us, and the awesome sacrifice he makes for the sinful body of mankind in which body he developed) .

The man Jesus who was born of the flesh as all humans are, and who was born the first son of our God, (The Son of Man) not by blood, nor by the will of the flesh, nor by the will of man, but by the spirit of the Lord our saviour who pays the penalty for the sins of the flesh in which he develops, whose spirit descended on the man Jesus in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, “You are my son, (MY CHOSEN successor) this day I have begotten thee.”

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

Catholic Study Edition , GNB: Acts 3: 19-20; Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you. The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

 

[freelight]

No, the Father and the Son are not distinct/different. In fact, when you see Jesus one day, you can say, "I see the Father".

We all agree that 'God' was revealing himself in and thru Jesus, and continues to do so

We too are the Temple of God.

 

[God's Truth]

We all agree that 'God' was revealing himself in and thru Jesus, and continues to do so

We too are the Temple of God.

Jesus is God the Father come in the flesh.

We too are the Temple, and we are also in Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

You truly are ignorant to the truths as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, are you not?

Hebrew 10: 5 to 7; GNB Catholic Study Edition; For this reason, when Christ (The anointed one) was about to come into the world, he said to God: “You do not want sacrifices and offerings, but a body you have prepared for me (The body of the man Jesus through whom, The Son of Man, who is the Son of God, would reveal himself to us, and the awesome sacrifice he makes for the sinful body of mankind in which body he developed) .

The man Jesus who was born of the flesh as all humans are, and who was born the first son of our God, (The Son of Man) not by blood, nor by the will of the flesh, nor by the will of man, but by the spirit of the Lord our saviour who pays the penalty for the sins of the flesh in which he develops, whose spirit descended on the man Jesus in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, “You are my son, (MY CHOSEN successor) this day I have begotten thee.”

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

Catholic Study Edition , GNB: Acts 3: 19-20; Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you. The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

See John 1:1 and John 1:14.

There is only one God and he is the Father.

See 1 Corinthians 8:7.

Since there is only one God and He is the Father, then Jesus who is God must be the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

God raised Jesus from the dead.

Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

Rom. 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21, Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17,20.


Jesus raised himself.

John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

Jesus and God are the same. That is why some scriptures say God raised Jesus, and other scriptures say Jesus raised himself.

The Holy Spirit raised Jesus.

Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

(Jesus was made alive by the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is his Spirit.)

 

[S-word]

Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

See John 1:1 and John 1:14.

There is only one God and he is the Father.

See 1 Corinthians 8:7.

Since there is only one God and He is the Father, then Jesus who is God must be the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

God raised Jesus from the dead.

Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

Rom. 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21, Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17,20.


Jesus raised himself.

John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

Jesus and God are the same. That is why some scriptures say God raised Jesus, and other scriptures say Jesus raised himself.

The Holy Spirit raised Jesus.

Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

(Jesus was made alive by the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is his Spirit.)

This is becoming so boring, having to correct little children who are unable to comprehend the truths as revealed in thee Holy Scriptures.

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

Acts 3:19-20; Catholic Study Edition , GNB: Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you.

The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

The one who erroneously calls itself 'God's Truth wrote........Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

S-word.......Jesus was not the Logos, but the Logos was God. Jesus was the man that God chose from among the Israelites, to speak in his name, the earthly host body through whom the Lord, who filled the man Jesus with his spirit, revealed himself to the world through the words and miracles spoken and performed through his obedient servant Jesus.

Acts 3: 13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has given divine glory to his Servant Jesus.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......There is only one God and he is the Father.

S-word..... The SON OF MAN, the Most High in the creation, whose spirit descended on the man Jesus, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; "You are my son, 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee," or this day I have become your Father.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......See 1 Corinthians 8:7. But not everyone knows this truth. Some people have been so used to idols that to this day when they eat such food they still think of it as food that belongs to an idol; their conscience is weak, and they feel they are defiled by the food.

S-word...... Don't know what you're getting at there son.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......since there is only one God and He is the Father, then Jesus who is God must be the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

S-word.......Jesus was not a God, but God had this to say about the man Jesus in Acts 17: 30-31;
30 God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. 31 For he has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death!”

God raised Jesus from the dead.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

S-word......Correct as just shown in Acts 17: 30-31.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Rom 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21, Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17,20.

S-word......Rom 10: 9; If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Yep! God raised Jesus from the dead, the man that he has made our King and High priest.

1 Timothy 1Good News Translation (GNT)1 From Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by order of God our Savior and Christ Jesus our hope.

1st Peter 1: 21; Through him (Jesus) you believe in God, who raised him (Jesus) from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. Yep! Through the man Jesus who was an obedient servant, whom the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, has risen to life, and given to him divine glory, (See Acts 3: 13.) we now believe in God who was able to perform such a miracle.

Galatians 1: 1; Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—

Correct! Paul never knew the man Jesus. After the man Jesus had been raised from death, and was given divine glory by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of brilliant and blinding light. He, who we once knew as a man, confronted Saul on the Road to Damascus, and answered Saul's question; "Who are you Lord?" with these words; "I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you persecute."

Eph 1: 17-20. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, (Who is our God also) the glorious Father, (Who is our Father also) may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.

Jesus said to Mary Magdalene in John 20: 17; Go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father who is your Father, to my God who is your God.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Jesus raised himself.

S-word......Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

S-word.......So said the Son of God through his obedient servant Jesus, the same one who said, "Destroy this Temple and I will raise it up in three days;} and we Know who raised the body of Jesus, which was the Temple of the Lord who had filled the man Jesus with his spirit

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

S-word......I am really getting bored with this, if you wish that I should continue to embarrass you, let me Know.

 

[God's Truth]

This is becoming so boring, having to correct little children who are unable to comprehend the truths as revealed in thee Holy Scriptures.

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

Acts 3:19-20; Catholic Study Edition , GNB: Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you.

The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

The one who erroneously calls itself 'God's Truth wrote........Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

S-word.......Jesus was not the Logos, but the Logos was God. Jesus was the man that God chose from among the Israelites, to speak in his name, the earthly host body through whom the Lord, who filled the man Jesus with his spirit, revealed himself to the world through the words and miracles spoken and performed through his obedient servant Jesus.

Acts 3: 13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has given divine glory to his Servant Jesus.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......There is only one God and he is the Father.

S-word..... The SON OF MAN, the Most High in the creation, whose spirit descended on the man Jesus, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; "You are my son, 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee," or this day I have become your Father.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......See 1 Corinthians 8:7. But not everyone knows this truth. Some people have been so used to idols that to this day when they eat such food they still think of it as food that belongs to an idol; their conscience is weak, and they feel they are defiled by the food.

S-word...... Don't know what you're getting at there son.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......since there is only one God and He is the Father, then Jesus who is God must be the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

S-word.......Jesus was not a God, but God had this to say about the man Jesus in Acts 17: 30-31;
30 God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. 31 For he has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death!”

God raised Jesus from the dead.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

S-word......Correct as just shown in Acts 17: 30-31.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Rom 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21, Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17,20.

S-word......Rom 10: 9; If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Yep! God raised Jesus from the dead, the man that he has made our King and High priest.

1 Timothy 1Good News Translation (GNT)1 From Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by order of God our Savior and Christ Jesus our hope.

1st Peter 1: 21; Through him (Jesus) you believe in God, who raised him (Jesus) from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. Yep! Through the man Jesus who was an obedient servant, whom the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, has risen to life, and given to him divine glory, (See Acts 3: 13.) we now believe in God who was able to perform such a miracle.

Galatians 1: 1; Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—

Correct! Paul never knew the man Jesus. After the man Jesus had been raised from death, and was given divine glory by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of brilliant and blinding light. He, who we once knew as a man, confronted Saul on the Road to Damascus, and answered Saul's question; "Who are you Lord?" with these words; "I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you persecute."

Eph 1: 17-20. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, (Who is our God also) the glorious Father, (Who is our Father also) may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.

Jesus said to Mary Magdalene in John 20: 17; Go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father who is your Father, to my God who is your God.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......Jesus raised himself.

S-word......Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

S-word.......So said the Son of God through his obedient servant Jesus, the same one who said, "Destroy this Temple and I will raise it up in three days;} and we Know who raised the body of Jesus, which was the Temple of the Lord who had filled the man Jesus with his spirit

The one who erroneously calls itself God's Truth wrote.......John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

S-word......I am really getting bored with this, if you wish that I should continue to embarrass you, let me Know.

Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

See John 1:1 and John 1:14.

There is only one God and he is the Father.

See 1 Corinthians 8:7.

Since there is only one God and He is the Father, then Jesus who is God must be the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

God raised Jesus from the dead.

Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

Rom. 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21, Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17,20.


Jesus raised himself.

John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

Jesus and God are the same. That is why some scriptures say God raised Jesus, and other scriptures say Jesus raised himself.

The Holy Spirit raised Jesus.

Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

(Jesus was made alive by the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is his Spirit.)

 

[Tambora]

Titus 2:13 KJV
(13) Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

 

[S-word]

Jesus is the Word of God, and the Word WAS God, the Word became flesh.

See John 1:1 and John 1:14.

The root to the word “BRAHMAN” originally meant “SPEECH”, much the same as the “LOGOS” is said to mean ‘WORD,’ but our words or our speech, is merely the expression of the thoughts that are stored in the minds that are we. Both Logos/word and Brahman/speech, should be seen as the gathered information that is waiting to be expressed. The two are one and are in fact, the invisible living universal mind, in which is gathered all of the information of every universal body throughout all eternity. Brahman and Logos, should be seen as the essential divine reality of the universe the eternal spirit from which all being originates, and to which all must return.

You are body, soul and spirit. Your body is created from the universal elements, and it is activated by the universal soul, which is the animating principle that pervades the entire universal body, activating everything within the universe, from the wave particles to the subatomic particles that make up the atoms which are the building blocks of the molecules from which the universal body is created. It is to the universal soul=LIFE-FORCE, that all information = SPIRIT is gathered.

“YOU” the mind, are spirit. The body in which you, [The mind] are developing as the supreme head and controller of that body, is made up of the universal elements, which is activated by the soul [Animating life force] to which all the spirit [gathered information] of all your ancestors, human and prehuman, has been gathered in its evolution to become who you are, and that parental spirit dwells behind the veil of the flesh to the inner most sanctuary of its earthly tabernacle=tent, which is your body.

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality = “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body, which godhead should be an obedient servant to “WHO YOU ARE.”

Then of the Thee in Me who works behind
The veil, I lifted up my hands to find
A lamp amid the Darkness; and I heard,
As from Without__ “The Me within Thee is blind.”.... By Omar Khayyam.
,
When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body: “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU = the mind=spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity.*Unless of course, the information=spirit that is “YOU” is divided from the universal life-force, which is the second death. For the spirit=information that is you, can be divided from the universal soul. Hebrews 4: 12.---------“For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and spirit.”

The term, "THE WORD OF GOD," pertains to the sense that is identical to the term “LOGOS” or the mold. The mold by which the whole sense of a thing is given. In other words, the very plan from the outset. In Sanskrit the similar meaning is given in the use of the word 'vach.' Vach means word. But in Sanskrit teachings of the Sanatana Dharma, vach has many levels. Including where the word is first considered as being in the mind as a thought, not as the spoken word or speech.

We humans, may express in our spoken words, all the information that has been gathered through the senses of our bodies in the creation of the invisible minds=spirits that are “WE”. Our word is the expression of “Who we are.” Your words are the expression of the spirit that is “YOU” the mind.

But the “LOGOS=WORD” and BRAHMAN=SPEECH” who are the gathered universal information=spirit of the aeons, express the information that has been gathered to the universal soul as another universal body, which is in the image and likeness to the previous universe, [The Resurrection] in which the eternal Spirit=mind has and can, continue to evolve.

You cannot see me! You can see the intricate living body in which I the mind have developed as the controlling godhead, but you cannot see the spirit that is me.
Nor can you see God! You can see the complex and intricate universal body in which He, the controlling Godhead has developed, but you cannot see the spirit that is The Son of God.

Romans 1: 18; God’s anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known. God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature have been clearly seen in the creation, [which is the expression of all the information that has been gathered to the evolving mind in the eternal invisible being.]

 

[God's Truth]

The root to the word “BRAHMAN” originally meant “SPEECH”, much the same as the “LOGOS” is said to mean ‘WORD,’ but our words or our speech, is merely the expression of the thoughts that are stored in the minds that are we. Both Logos/word and Brahman/speech, should be seen as the gathered information that is waiting to be expressed. The two are one and are in fact, the invisible living universal mind, in which is gathered all of the information of every universal body throughout all eternity. Brahman and Logos, should be seen as the essential divine reality of the universe the eternal spirit from which all being originates, and to which all must return.

The scripture plainly says the Word was God.

You are body, soul and spirit.

Our spirit makes our body a living soul. So while we live on this earth, we are only body and spirit. When our body dies we are only spirit.

Your body is created from the universal elements, and it is activated by the universal soul, which is the animating principle that pervades the entire universal body, activating everything within the universe, from the wave particles to the subatomic particles that make up the atoms which are the building blocks of the molecules from which the universal body is created. It is to the universal soul=LIFE-FORCE, that all information = SPIRIT is gathered.

“YOU” the mind, are spirit. The body in which you, [The mind] are developing as the supreme head and controller of that body, is made up of the universal elements, which is activated by the soul [Animating life force] to which all the spirit [gathered information] of all your ancestors, human and prehuman, has been gathered in its evolution to become who you are, and that parental spirit dwells behind the veil of the flesh to the inner most sanctuary of its earthly tabernacle=tent, which is your body.

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality = “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body, which godhead should be an obedient servant to “WHO YOU ARE.”

Then of the Thee in Me who works behind
The veil, I lifted up my hands to find
A lamp amid the Darkness; and I heard,
As from Without__ “The Me within Thee is blind.”.... By Omar Khayyam.
,
When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body: “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU = the mind=spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity.*Unless of course, the information=spirit that is “YOU” is divided from the universal life-force, which is the second death. For the spirit=information that is you, can be divided from the universal soul. Hebrews 4: 12.---------“For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and spirit.”

The term, "THE WORD OF GOD," pertains to the sense that is identical to the term “LOGOS” or the mold. The mold by which the whole sense of a thing is given. In other words, the very plan from the outset. In Sanskrit the similar meaning is given in the use of the word 'vach.' Vach means word. But in Sanskrit teachings of the Sanatana Dharma, vach has many levels. Including where the word is first considered as being in the mind as a thought, not as the spoken word or speech.

We humans, may express in our spoken words, all the information that has been gathered through the senses of our bodies in the creation of the invisible minds=spirits that are “WE”. Our word is the expression of “Who we are.” Your words are the expression of the spirit that is “YOU” the mind.

But the “LOGOS=WORD” and BRAHMAN=SPEECH” who are the gathered universal information=spirit of the aeons, express the information that has been gathered to the universal soul as another universal body, which is in the image and likeness to the previous universe, [The Resurrection] in which the eternal Spirit=mind has and can, continue to evolve.

You cannot see me! You can see the intricate living body in which I the mind have developed as the controlling godhead, but you cannot see the spirit that is me.
Nor can you see God! You can see the complex and intricate universal body in which He, the controlling Godhead has developed, but you cannot see the spirit that is The Son of God.

We can see what is in a person’s heart. Jesus says we can.