Prizebeatz1
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"And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away (Matthew 18:9)". If you don't then you are just as guilty as me of merely giving your worthless opinion.
Jesus is God.
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"And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away (Matthew 18:9)". If you don't then you are just as guilty as me of merely giving your worthless opinion.
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We should always obey ALL that God WANTS us to obey. But we do NOT receive eternal life by our obedience because NOBODY (save the Lord Jesus Christ) meets THAT standard.
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You show you have no understanding. Look, I will prove it to you. Answer this question: If you stop sinning with your eye, why would you throw it out?
You have no understanding, just as most people have no understanding.
See, Jesus says if your eye causes you to sin gouge it out. That is to show the importance of STOP sinning.
Prizebeatz1
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That sounds good except for the 'should' part. See how easy it is for falseness to seep in. However, I am glad you admit that GOD WANTS US TO OBEY. God does want us to obey.
Jesus saves us all on his own, BUT HE CHOOSES whom he saves. Jesus says he chooses those WHO OBEY.
What don't you get?
Jesus says he saves those who obey.
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You lie continually.
You will be condemned because you do not accept the righteousness of Christ.
Rom 5:17-18 (AKJV/PCE)
(5:17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) (5:18) Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.
I will take Christ's righteousness over yours or mine anytime.
Prizebeatz1
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"...if you speak about Jesus of the Bible, but do not obey what he says, everything he says, then you are merely giving your worthless opinion..."
God's Truth
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Stop saying I lie. I have not lied. You go against me for saying we have to obey to get saved and to stay saved. I SHOW SCRIPTURES that say that. You do not believe what is plainly written.
God's Truth
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That is right. If you do not obey Jesus, Jesus WHO SAYS he gives understanding to those who OBEY, if you do not obey, then you do NOT have understanding, and what you say is just a worthless opinion.
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YOU do not obey ALL, you self-righteous Pharisee!!
I understand FULLY the gospel of the GRACE of God.
P.S. You're a self-righteous Pharisee (Luke 18).
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HOW hard is it for you to understand?
The Bible says understanding is given to those who OBEY.
The Bible says understanding is given to those who OBEY.
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It's really TELLING that you always say "you go against ME", instead of "you go against scripture".
You're the Pharisee in Luke 18.
God's Truth
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Jesus says the Pharisees DO NOT OBEY!
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You don't OBEY, you only think that you do. Your new name is LUKE18.
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My point exactly. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Paul says he believed it and preached it therefore calling it his gospel!
He even says it is OUR gospel.
You are trying to twist something evil where there is none.
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Paul also calls it OUR GOSPEL:
2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 because our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake.
2 Thessalonians 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 because our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake.
2 Thessalonians 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
God's Truth
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You say you do not obey. So you think you are better than the Pharisees because you admit you do not obey?!!!
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I'm just trying to help save you.
I am just contending for the faith, and you offending me will not stop me.
I have the Word of God with me. All you have are doctrines from demons.
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Nobody will be justified before God by THEIR OWN obedience or righteousness. Not even the Great GT.