But the gospels are clear that this is exactly what the holy spirit is. It is God the father doing miracles.
- The Holy Spirit is not the only true God
But the gospels are clear that this is exactly what the holy spirit is. It is God the father doing miracles.
- The Holy Spirit is not the only true God
You sure do speak against obeying God! You keep telling me that we only have to believe!
You are the one who asks me if I obey. You are the one who keeps bringing up my obedience.
Just listen to you. You speak about the hypocrite Meshak when you speak to me. You cannot find a sin that I have done, so you speak about hers.
I do not need to see if I have stepped in dog shine, my nose tells me.
My nose tells me you are in trouble with sin and disobedience, that is what you speak about and we always speak about our own condition
People as have heart trouble always speak about that
people as have cancer always speak about that
You are always speaking about sin and disobedience to the law.
Feel free, then, to rationally disprove my answer.Though not quite as useless as your answer.
Empty rhetoric. Try again.Something is beyond your ability? Say it isn't so!
Already answered.Here you are back trying to force an argument as evidence. That doesn't work in theory or practice.
More rhetoric. Try again.Sorry for your failure as an apologist.
Already answered.Bald assertion. Try MUCH harder next time.
It is quite clear to me, you don't understand the sentence, and the god was a word. What word is the word of God? It is his name.John 1:1 is exceptionally clear (all of John is) despite ridiculous statements contrary. The literary form John uses of John 1 syncs with Genesis 1 so that anyone but an academic slouch understands the triune truth: "In the Beginning God created..." - "In the beginning God was with and was God, created..." John uses simple language: "...was with God and was God..." Nobody but the inept could miss this simplicity or try to make it otherwise. ▲This▲ part of the sentence shuts down every pretense. Either you did well in English Language Arts or you were a flunky. Those who did well are all trinitarians. Guess who the rest are? Guess why?
It is no mystery that only in the first sentence is Jesus sort of mentioned. :nono:It's still a mystery to you, is it? :nono:
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the [secret] of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of [messengers], preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, [taken] up into glory.
You first:
1) Did you get A's in English-Language Arts? Yes or no?
2) Can you read Greek or understand basic English to get in John 1:1 that the Word is both "...with and was..." God???
3) If you can possibly understand this, do you understand why your questions are meaningless, then, to me? They don't make sense if you (I) understand John 1:1 :nono:
I only used three▲ "...with and was..." ▲
It is very clear and plain. What were your Language grades again?
(you are still on my ignore as are most arians and unitarians. I will occassionally respond for fairness as I posted in one of your threads)
The doctrine of the Trinity is in scripture, It might not have been named until later but it is in several passages of Scripture.
What is clear is that you are rejecting the plain textual reading of the verses.But the gospels are clear that this is exactly what the holy spirit is. It is God the father doing miracles.
Luke 11:13 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? |
It is no mystery that only in the first sentence is Jesus sort of mentioned. :nono:
Feel free to shift the burden of proof at your convenience.Feel free, then, to rationally disprove my answer.
Actually, no, you haven't answered anything. All you have done is avoid any discussion or provide even one piece of evidence that Jesus is "god."Already answered.
Actually, no, see above.Already answered.
The existence of "god" be that Jesus or not is not an argument. Either Jesus is "god" or he isn't. No amount of "argument" will prove that absent evidence.All you're able to offer is sarcastic rhetoric. Come back if you ever manage to put together an actual argument.
Do you believe it?
Jesus is god as we all are god.
(((( FINALLY!!!! ---- Someone Got that Part on the Christian RIGHT!!!! ))))!!!!
Come On, all of you, ( Prove Him Wrong ) on that point!!!!
You Can't. -- You won't even TRY!!!!
Paul, David -- 082714
What does conceived by power of the Holy Spirit mean? You seem to deny the personhood of holy spirit as God the father.What is clear is that you are rejecting the plain textual reading of the verses.
Luke 11:13
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Try the Shema;
Deuteronomy 6:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
Stop trying to make yourself God.
...we all are god.