He is not the Sabbath day...
if shadows are the sabbath and there are no shadows in light...so there is no rest in the light
a light without rest/shadows
Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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The Sabbath is a Saturday.
Observing special days was a shadow of Jesus. Jesus has come and is light and there are no shadows in him.
Observing special days is nothing when it comes to salvation.
We are to observe Jesus all day every days.
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Simple, He was speaking to the Jews...to whom the commandments were given.
It's paramount, when reading the Bible to understand what is being said, and to whom.
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
HE IS RISEN....things are different.
Now that He has risen from the dead, we no longer know him according to the flesh.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Those commandments that you cling to were merely the schoolmaster that would bring us to Christ in order for us to be justified by FAITH....not commandment keeping.
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
There are more Sabbath days than just Saturday.
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All Sabbaths are about Jesus.
Incorrect.
I love Scripture, including the few that have been "shared".
I reject the twisting of it by anyone.
And again, another shallow retort, without even a single text that actually STATES your theory.
You are confused again. What I stated is;
.. there are SEVERAL definitions for "spirit". It depends on the context. Most of the times, in Scripture "spirit" is discussing thinking, attitude. Some times "spirit" means breath. Some times spirit means a being with a message, a messenger.
Jesus' spirit is conformed to his God's spirit.The holy spirit is God's spirit. God's thinking/mind and the power produced by God's mind. So, yes they think the same. The believer then must "learn" what Christ taught, in order to acquire Christ's spirit, which has been perfectly conformed to his God's spirit.
Eph 4:17-24
17 So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind,
18 being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;
19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.
20 But you did not learn Christ in this way,
21 if indeed you have heard him and have been taught in him, just as truth is in Jesus,
22 that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
It's paramount, when reading the Bible to understand what is being said, and to whom.
In John 14 Jesus is speaking to his apostles, immediately following the "last supper".
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That is not what the Bible says. The Bible says to repent and believe and then you will receive the Holy Spirit, and then live your life being transformed by the renewing of your mind.
We don't receive the Father and Jesus' Spirit after we have lived our lives; we receive the Holy Spirit and are being transformed to the image of Jesus Christ.
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Jesus says that he is in the Father; from your error in your beliefs, you say God had to be conformed to Jesus' spirit.
John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
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Jesus is speaking to anyone, and everyone, and whosoever, and all.
Correct, the god is the god of all, and he exists.
The law even with Jesus Christ makes more sense, then your spiritual nonsense.
I see it on both sides.
He was the only one born of a virgin. You can argue Adam is uniquely begotten, but he isn't born of a virgin.
You are confused. Jesus says he is "in the Father" in the same way WE can be "in the son" and "in the Father".
1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
Jesus was "in the Father" because he obeyed his God perfectly, and thought like his God.
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Sure, just like every verse of the Bible is "speaking to anyone, and everyone, and whosoever, and all."
But that's not what we were talking about.
WE were talking about proper interpretation of CONTEXT, by observing these points; To whom is this being spoken, What is the topic, Who is speaking, etc.
In the context of John 13-16, Jesus is talking to the apostles directly. Jesus' statements regarding his COMMANDMENTS utterly disproves your theory about "Law" in the NT.
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Good post, MennoSota.
Notice that, according to Arius'/Dartman's false claim that God the Father CREATED God the Son (which claim implies that "There was a time when the Son was NOT"), there must have been a time when "the radiance of the glory of God was NOT". So, according to Arianism, God the Father CREATED the radiance of the glory of God; a mere CREATURE is the radiance of the glory of God the Father. What a pathetic, and blasphemous depiction of God the Father!
7djengo7
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Why can't you answer the question I asked you?
I asked you:
Is THE ruler of all of Egypt EQUAL TO THE ruler of all of Egypt? Yes or No?
I did not ask you:
"Is THE [one and only] ruler of all of Egypt EQUAL TO THE [one and only] ruler of all of Egypt? Yes or No?"
Why can you not answer the question I asked you?
So, now, you have TWO questions to stonewall against:
1. MY question: Is THE ruler of all of Egypt EQUAL TO THE ruler of all of Egypt? Yes or No?
AND
2. YOUR question: Is THE [one and only] ruler of all of Egypt EQUAL TO THE [one and only] ruler of all of Egypt? Yes or No?
Here is another fun question for you:
Is THE ruler of all of Egypt THE ruler of all of Egypt? Yes or No?
Have fun.
7djengo7
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Why don't you try to explain what (if anything) you imagine it is to "worship someone as lord", and what (if anything) you imagine it is to "worship someone as God"? Precisely state what (if anything) you think is the difference between "worshiping someone as God" and "worshiping someone as lord".
Actually, in the text you quoted, we find neither the phrase "worshiped him as lord", nor the phrase "worshiped him as God". Instead, we read that the man called Jesus "Lord", and that "he worshiped him".
Would you please cite, from the Bible, where (if anywhere) you imagine you find that persons/places/things that are NOT God ought to be worshiped?
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