genuineoriginal
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Where?
The verse quoted shows two beings/persons.
Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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The verse quoted shows two beings/persons.
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The Sabbath day heals? Jesus is the Sabbath Rest. Jesus is the healer. You put a day up there with the Father and the Son. Observing special days is worthless, it does nothing for salvation.
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What you did was evil and there is nothing wrong with telling you that.
Now you are contradicting yourself. Shame on you.
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With God the Almighty, nothing is impossible.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
So this correction you are reading into the verse was that men can be or cannot be gods?
No, He corrected nothing.
He only clarified who He was.
There's a HUGE difference.
Again, they then reacted the SAME WAY, wanting to seize Him so they could kill him for blasphemy.
Why? Because claiming to be the Son of God IS THE SAME AS CLAIMING TO BE GOD.
He merely clarified WHICH PERSON OF THE TRIUNE GOD He is.
You're the one making Him into a liar by saying He corrected them when He did no such thing.
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I'm the one who told you that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
What is your point?
You make no sense and seem to be very confused.
Please show us scripture that has men forgiving sins committed against others.
Show us where God delegates that authority to ANYONE BUT JESUS.
genuineoriginal
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You sound as if you are confused of whether you are your own father or whether you are your father's son.
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That is a ridiculous thing to say to me since the leaven of the Pharisees is that Jesus isn't God!
You are the one with the leaven of the Pharisees.
You seem to discount that it is a prophecy in the old testament that the LORD God would forgive sins one day without the purification works of the law:
Psalm 32:5I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Your faulty logic is faulty. If God were one Person and one Being, you would have a point. But God is not one Person and one Being.
He is one Being and THREE Persons.
Therefore...
Here is the correct logic:
Premise: God is one Being
Premise: God is three Persons
Premise: The three Persons are the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit
Conclusion: The Father is God
Conclusion: The Son is God
Conclusion: The Holy Spirit is God
AND
Premise: The Father is NOT the Son
Premise: The Son is NOT the Holy Spirit
Premise: The Holy Spirit is NOT the Father
Conclusion: The three Persons are Co-equally one God.
genuineoriginal
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I will go with what the Bible teaches:
The Son of God was given the authority to judge and forgive by His Father, God.
John 5:22-27 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. |
This is an argument from silence.
Just because the third Person of the trinity is not mentioned does not exclude His existence.
genuineoriginal
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God is one person/being, the Son of God is another one person/being.
God is not one being with three personalities.
You have been deceived by the doctrines of men to the point you can't read what scripture states.
Not what I asked, you ignoramus.
Slower:
Please show us scripture that has men forgiving sins committed against others.
Show us where God delegates that authority to ANYONE BUT JESUS.
genuineoriginal
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Not at all.
It is an argument from truth.
The verse has one being speaking to a second being.
genuineoriginal
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You asked amiss.
James 4:3 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. |
Saying it doesn't make it so.
Except He is.
| baptizing them in the name |
One name, one Being.
| of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, |
Three individuals named, three Persons.
This coming from someone who ignores the scriptures that, as a whole, point to Jesus being God.
Which in no way excludes a third from existing, which is what you're claiming, that the third Person does not exist because He is not mentioned in this verse.
Hence, an argument from silence.
genuineoriginal
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Three persons, therefor: three beings.
Slower:
You claimed this:
Again:
Please show us scripture that has men forgiving sins committed against others.
Show us where God delegates that authority to ANYONE BUT JESUS.
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