Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

ok doser

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marke

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Didn't do you your research, did you?

Through its Science Policy Centre, the society acts as an advisor to the UK Government, the European Commission and the United Nations on matters of science.

Yeah, real amateurs. Steven Hawking was a member - real moron, that guy.
Poor disabled Stevie. He thought of himself as something of a genius who was going to find the key to the universe and disprove God. What a moron.
 

marke

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Apparently taken from here:
Leftist Marxists can put up with all sorts of derogatory depictions of Trump but when people start mocking leftist icons the tribal barbarians become insanely violent.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Leftist Marxists can put up with all sorts of derogatory depictions of Trump but when people start mocking leftist icons the tribal barbarians become insanely violent.
By the way, it's worth noting that calling what is obviously a piece of satire a "falsified photo" is really really retarded 😁
 

way 2 go

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Nope - the message is that retarded Americans are refusing to protect themselves by getting vaccinated so now everyone has to pay the consequences.
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vaccine is a .7% to 1.1% absolute risk reduction

8÷21720 = 3.68 x100=.03 in Pfzier/BioNTe
162÷21726=.007 x100=.74 placebo

.74 - .03= .71

11÷15210=7.23 x 100= .07 Moderna vacc
185÷15210= .012 x100= 1.21 placebo

1.21 - .07 = 1.1

which is vaccine .7% to 1.1% absolute risk reduction
 

way 2 go

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Where is your evidence. Here is mine. From the Royal Society:

As expected, the different estimates show some variation. Still, all suggest that the effect of introducing face mask regulation reduces the reproduction number by 15–40%, a rather big reduction for one single preventive measure. Even at the lower end of this interval (EFM = 15%), a community not using face masks and currently having RNo ≈ 1.2 (with a doubling time of daily cases being less than a month) would change its reproduction number to RFM ≈ 1 if face masks were made mandatory, hence more or less stopping the growth. If instead EFM = 25% the new reproduction would be RFM ≈ 0.9 and transmission would start declining in the community.
masks don't work because there is no such thing as asymptomatic spread.


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benben

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Nope - the message is that retarded Americans are refusing to protect themselves by getting vaccinated so now everyone has to pay the consequences.

If the vaccine is so effective, why does it matter that some people haven't gotten it? Reminds me of masks which simultaneously work and don't work at the same time, depending on whether cases are up or down on a given day. Face it, dude, we're onto the fake science scam/cult.
 

marke

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Didn't do you your research, did you?

Through its Science Policy Centre, the society acts as an advisor to the UK Government, the European Commission and the United Nations on matters of science.

Yeah, real amateurs. Steven Hawking was a member - real moron, that guy.

It is almost as if you guys are asking to embarrassed - you (and I don't mean you in particular) post articles from the most ridiculous sources and yet you deign to suggest my sources are suspect.

Well, here is the deal: I plan to summarize the "qualifications" of the sources cited on this forum by people on the anti-vax, anti-mask side of this issue.

Can't wait to see how that turns out.
Leftist rubes of the worldwide Marxist movement do not recognize nor heed the information and advice of certified experts. Here is an example.


Vanden Bossche knows a thing or two about vaccines and is a self-declared pro-vaxxer. He is a seasoned vaccine developer (vaccinologist) with a track record with GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines and Solvay Biologicals. He’s also worked with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle as senior program officer and as senior Ebola program manager with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization in Geneva.
However, in early March, Vanden Bossche put out a call to the World Health Organization, supported by a 12-page document on a dedicated website especially set up to communicate his concerns. We responded with a 4,000-word article that tried to steer an objective line through conflicting streams of information and consider the implications of what appeared to be a whistleblower.
 
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expos4ever

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Lifesitenews? Well, you asked for it:

Fact-checking website Snopes described LifeSiteNews in 2016 as "a known purveyor of misleading information".[21] Paul Moses wrote for Commonweal in 2021 that LifeSiteNews coverage "feigns journalistic accuracy, but misleads through omission".[13] The Canadian Anti-Hate Network described the website in a 2021 report as a "Christian version of Breitbart".[6] Political Research Associates analyst Heron Greenesmith categorized LifeSiteNews to NBC News in September 2019 as a member of the "Christian-right anti-transgender disinformation ecosystem" and stated, "LifeSite platforms the small number of anti-trans researchers, academics, and right-wing professional associations, giving their work a veneer of scientific validity".[9] Moses wrote in Commonweal that the site spread confusion about COVID-19, and that their coverage "is so slanted that anyone relying on it would be terribly misled on what the science shows."[13]

LifeSiteNews regularly publishes conspiracy theories.[7][22][23] The site has published misleading claims about Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and articles supportive of the "Stop the Steal" campaign with the same goal.[24][6] Some articles on the website use the tag "New World Order",[6] the name of a conspiracy theory which hypothesizes a secretly emerging totalitarian world government
 

Right Divider

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Lifesitenews? Well, you asked for it:
Follow the LINKS that they provide.

Masks do not and cannot stop a virus like COVID-19, but masks do have all kinds of bad (and intuitively obvious) health problems.

Some HIGHLY masked area of the world showed little difference from places that were barely masked at all.

Look at the high praise that Japan got for their masking ... didn't stop COVID-19.
 

marke

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Lifesitenews? Well, you asked for it:

Fact-checking website Snopes described LifeSiteNews in 2016 as "a known purveyor of misleading information".[21] Paul Moses wrote for Commonweal in 2021 that LifeSiteNews coverage "feigns journalistic accuracy, but misleads through omission".[13] The Canadian Anti-Hate Network described the website in a 2021 report as a "Christian version of Breitbart".[6] Political Research Associates analyst Heron Greenesmith categorized LifeSiteNews to NBC News in September 2019 as a member of the "Christian-right anti-transgender disinformation ecosystem" and stated, "LifeSite platforms the small number of anti-trans researchers, academics, and right-wing professional associations, giving their work a veneer of scientific validity".[9] Moses wrote in Commonweal that the site spread confusion about COVID-19, and that their coverage "is so slanted that anyone relying on it would be terribly misled on what the science shows."[13]

LifeSiteNews regularly publishes conspiracy theories.[7][22][23] The site has published misleading claims about Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and articles supportive of the "Stop the Steal" campaign with the same goal.[24][6] Some articles on the website use the tag "New World Order",[6] the name of a conspiracy theory which hypothesizes a secretly emerging totalitarian world government
Freakshow stupidite Marxist democrats and leftist liberals continue to mock the truth while claiming their lies are more reliable than God.
 

marke

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"Americans who say they will definitely not get vaccinated against COVID-19 are overwhelmingly white and Republican, according to polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation."

Opponents of the vaccine are also informed. Leftist Marxists have fallen prey to bad narratives falsely claiming the 'covid vaccines' are safe, but that is not true. Here is more emerging info the left tries to suppress to the great harm of people.

Recently, there have been rapid developments regarding the COVID-19 vaccines that have raised new questions about the growing number of adverse effects caused by these experimental injections, especially as it relates to the rising numbers of vaccine-related deaths, its effects on unborn babies, the future fertility of men and women who take them and the effects on children under 18 years of age.
“Because we are pro-life, we are always concerned about the lives and welfare of all people. When we see evidence of deaths and harm to health, especially in children and babies, we are obligated to try to get to the bottom of it and keep the public as informed as possible,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “We understand the issue of COVID-19 vaccines is a divisive topic, but we present this information not to create division, but to share information about the vaccines. What people do with that information should be up to them.”
Earlier, Operation Rescue posted information provided by a whistleblower who sits on a COVID-19 task force who first came forward to Abortion Free New Mexico to warn of pregnancy complications that were being reported by women after they took one of the vaccines. That whistleblower then provided a recorded interview to Mark Harrington, Director of Created Equal. That interview dealt with pregnancy outcomes such as miscarriage and impacts to future fertility that appear to be caused by the COVID-19 vaccines.
 

marke

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You lie - masks are effective.

You almost invariably do this - almost every post of yours is either an outright lie or something that effectively cashes out to be a lie when one digs into the details.

The truth is that the evidence strongly suggests that masks are effective.
What evidence? The CDC has flip-flopped on masks too many times to be taken seriously. Now they are recommending masking again but cannot provide any scientific evidence for such opinionated recommendations.

The studies that prompted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to change their mask guidance for vaccinated persons are not available, a spokesperson told The Epoch Times on Wednesday.
“They have not been published yet,” the spokesperson said.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC’s director, told reporters on July 27 that she had seen “new scientific data from recent outbreak investigations” indicating the Delta variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 was presenting more uniquely than other strains.
 
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