Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

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An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%.
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Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data
It is bad and getting worse.


So here’s the chart of new serious cases each day:

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As you can see, new serious cases have risen 10-fold since the beginning of July - from roughly five a day to about 40 over the last week. The overall number of patients has soared too - from 30 to more than 200.

But how many of those people are vaccinated?

The vast majority.

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דשבורד נתוני וירוס הקורונה בישראל מטעם משרד הבריאות הישראלי
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In an effort to play down that reality, Israel has begun to provide data comparing RATES of serious illness in older people who were not vaccinated and those who were.

But if they are too sick to tolerate the vaccine, they are obviously at much higher risk from Covid than the vaccinate. In other words, ability (and propensity) to be vaccinated is likely a marker for overall health. Researchers know this is true of the influenza vaccine - once they adjust for the fact that older people who get the vaccine are healthier to start than than those who don’t, the advantage the vaccine seems to offer mostly disappears.

So the comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn’t useful.
 
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So the comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn’t useful.
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That's the lie, here's the truth:

"Israel conducted the fastest vaccination campaign against COVID so far. Over 80% of adults are fully vaccinated, which is why only 275 people are hospitalized with COVID in the ENTIRE country of 9 million people. In a country of 9 million people, the high vaccination rate has saved numerous lives. Only a few people are dying per day from COVID. In comparison, Louisiana has a population of 4.6 million with only 37% fully vaccinated. Due to low vaccination rates, there are 1,620 patients hospitalized with COVID and 14-20 people dying per day, which tragically will continue to rise."

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A top Republican National Committee official in Florida spread fringe conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 vaccine on his blog, comparing the shot to a "false god." The official, Peter Feaman, is a lawyer who's represented Florida in the governing body of the RNC since 2012.

In one comment on his blog, "The Backhoe Chronicles," published in a private group on the social media platform MeWe, Feaman attacked Michigan's Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. "Diabolical Michigan Governor Whiter wants her citizens to get the Mark of the Beast to participate in society," he wrote in May, invoking a biblical reference to describe the vaccine as a mark of Satan.

"Hey Whitmer, we will not bow to your false god," he added.

 
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... racist homophobic views would find a welcoming environment in the politics forum at TOL.
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There is only one race. Human.

and "homophobe" means "fear of homos"

People don't fear homos any more than they fear pedophiles or adulterers or those who engage in bestiality. What you are confusing as fear is disgust at sexual perversion.
 
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Joe Biden's open southern border allowing hundreds of thousands of undocumented illegal aliens from 100 different countries carrying God knows how many different variants of covid and Joe Biden's choice is to distribute them by bus, by plane throughout our country.

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Covid. Interesting data buried in the UK reports. The mortality rate from the delta variant for the unvaccinated is more than ten times lower than the mortality rate from the original Covid19. For the unvaccinated, the case fatality rate from the Delta variant is about 1 in 1000, and that includes the infirm and the health-vulnerable populations Covid continues to mostly impact. Of note, the vaccinated appeared to be less likely to get Covid, but of those that did, their mortality rate was actually higher than the unvaccinated in this data set. https://assets.publishing.service.g...ants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_18.pdf

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Covid. Interesting data buried in the UK reports. The mortality rate from the delta variant for the unvaccinated...
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Absolutely none of that contradicts what I posted about hospitalization/death rates in Israel as compared with the state of Louisiana:

"Over 80% of adults in Israel are fully vaccinated, which is why only 275 people are hospitalized with COVID in the ENTIRE country of 9 million people. In a country of 9 million people, the high vaccination rate has saved numerous lives. Only a few people are dying per day from COVID. In comparison, Louisiana has a population of 4.6 million with only 37% fully vaccinated. Due to low vaccination rates, there are 1,620 patients hospitalized with COVID and 20-60 people dying per day, which tragically will continue to rise."

And rise it has: "Louisiana COVID hospitalizations break record for second day with 2,247 in hospitals"

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Louisiana COVID hospitalizations break record for second day with 2,247 in hospitals

The number of people hospitalized with the coronavirus in Louisiana broke records for the second day on Wednesday as the state continues to struggle with the delta variant and low
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That's the lie, here's the truth:

"Israel conducted the fastest vaccination campaign against COVID so far. Over 80% of adults are fully vaccinated, which is why only 275 people are hospitalized with COVID in the ENTIRE country of 9 million people. In a country of 9 million people, the high vaccination rate has saved numerous lives. Only a few people are dying per day from COVID. In comparison, Louisiana has a population of 4.6 million with only 37% fully vaccinated. Due to low vaccination rates, there are 1,620 patients hospitalized with COVID and 14-20 people dying per day, which tragically will continue to rise."

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Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine​


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link to pdf page 12


so not the vaccine , delta scariant less lethal
 
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Absolutely none of that contradicts what I posted about hospitalization/death rates in Israel as compared with the state of Louisiana:

"Over 80% of adults in Israel are fully vaccinated, which is why only 275 people are hospitalized with COVID in the ENTIRE country of 9 million people. In a country of 9 million people, the high vaccination rate has saved numerous lives. Only a few people are dying per day from COVID. In comparison, Louisiana has a population of 4.6 million with only 37% fully vaccinated. Due to low vaccination rates, there are 1,620 patients hospitalized with COVID and 20-60 people dying per day, which tragically will continue to rise."

And rise it has: "Louisiana COVID hospitalizations break record for second day with 2,247 in hospitals"

www.nola.com

Louisiana COVID hospitalizations break record for second day with 2,247 in hospitals

The number of people hospitalized with the coronavirus in Louisiana broke records for the second day on Wednesday as the state continues to struggle with the delta variant and low
www.nola.com www.nola.com
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Louisiana comorbidity rate ?
 
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Louisiana comorbidity rate ?
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Louisiana Congressman-Elect Dies From COVID-19

Republican Luke Letlow, 41, who was elected earlier this month to represent the northeastern 5th District, died Tuesday from complications from the disease.
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41 years old, zero "comorbidities", zero "pre-existing conditions", perfectly healthy.

I myself had an extended family member die of COVID-19 just a couple of days ago. He was 42 years old, no health problems, unvaccinated, now dead of Covid pneumonia.

Sure, Louisiana has a high comorbidity rate--which is all the more reason for them to get vaccinated! So far, everyone I personally know who's been hospitalized or died of covid has been unvaccinated. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
 
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