Is Russia Our Enemy?

ok doser

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Ukraine is entitled to pick its own government, and Russia is not entitled to annex its territory no matter how anxious Putin is.

If you're talking about the Crimean peninsula, russia has a better claim on it than the newly created country of Ukraine


And turkey has a better claim on it than either russia or ukraine
 

ClimateSanity

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Ukraine is entitled to pick its own government, and Russia is not entitled to annex its territory no matter how anxious Putin is.
Ukraine did not elect to have Victor Yanuckovich removed from power. What makes it worse is that the majority of its citizens did not favor removal as it was done. It was also done with the planning and aid of foreign governments.

That is a hostile act to Russia and Russia has the right to remove or alleviate that threat.
 

ClimateSanity

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If you're talking about the Crimean peninsula, russia has a better claim on it than the newly created country of Ukraine


And turkey has a better claim on it than either russia or ukraine
Yea. It was turkeys first and then Russia's next. Nikita Krushchev had no right to hand it over to Ukraine.
Russia certainly had a rightful claim to it.
 

rexlunae

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If you're talking about the Crimean peninsula, russia has a better claim on it than the newly created country of Ukraine

Not according to international law or treaty. Russia wants a chunk of Ukrainian territory? Let them negotiate for it diplomatically. Taking land by force is illegal.

And Ukraine is an older country that Russia, if you want to go there. Not that that changes anything.

And turkey has a better claim on it than either russia or ukraine

On what basis?
 

rexlunae

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Ukraine did not elect to have Victor Yanuckovich removed from power. What makes it worse is that the majority of its citizens did not favor removal as it was done. It was also done with the planning and aid of foreign governments.

Ukraine overthrew Yanukovych, when he started killing his own people. He brought it upon himself.

That is a hostile act to Russia and Russia has the right to remove or alleviate that threat.

To Russia? How is it hostile to Russia? If, as you say, he was the legitimate President of Ukraine, it could only have been hostile to Ukraine. Right? Russia isn't entitled to maintain a client in Ukraine's presidency.
 

patrick jane

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Russia is retaliating for the new sanctions we are about to enact, They are ordering 755 diplomats out of Russia and seizing properties
 

jgarden

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Ukraine is next door to Russia. They must have a friendly government in Ukraine or else Russia will feel rightly threatened. A duly elected president was forcibly removed from office with the help of the Democrats and CIA and globalists. Would you not take steps to lessen that threat?
In "The People's Republic of Trump," the mainstream media is all "fake," Vladimir Putin is our trusted "friend" and 75 years of foreign policy is reversed, by alienating America's NATO allies!
 

jgarden

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In "The People's Republic of Trump," the mainstream media is all "fake," Vladimir Putin is our trusted "friend" and 75 years of foreign policy is reversed, by alienating America's NATO allies!

What alternate universe do you live in?

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