Is MAD ethics and or morals void? Is MAD ethics even Christian?

[Idolater]

Your "impression" is very poor and not based on facts.

It's not a theory. It's simply a natural and normal reading of the scripture.

We have done that many times in these forums. Some are not paying attention.

Our "ethics and moral" are purely and 100% Christian.



MAD ethics are 100% Christian and Biblical. If you have some supposed evidence to the contrary, feel free to create a thread where we can discuss it.

Are you even 'allowed' to tell people to not do something because it's evil? And if so, with what justification? It's not because you're in danger of 'burning', it's only because it's a human rights violation, and not profitable to be evil, but not because you're going to hell if you invade Ukraine. You're not allowed to do that in MAD, am I incorrect?

 

[Right Divider]

Are you even 'allowed' to tell people to not do something because it's evil?

Yes and I have NO idea where this question comes from. Sounds like a silly caricature of some kind to me.

Rom 6:1-2 (AKJV/PCE)
(6:1) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? (6:2) God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

And if so, with what justification?

We judge the same way that Paul did. We are to be followers of Paul... not Peter (and the eleven).

1Cor 4:16 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:16) Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Cor 11:1 (AKJV/PCE)
(11:1) Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.

It's not because you're in danger of 'burning', it's only because it's a human rights violation, and not profitable to be evil, but not because you're going to hell if you invade Ukraine. You're not allowed to do that in MAD, am I incorrect?

You have a strange view of the Mid-Acts Dispensational view. It looks like you have a lot of research to do before you can ask an intelligent question about it.

 

[glorydaz]

Are you even 'allowed' to tell people to not do something because it's evil?

You are asking that of people who have total liberty?
A liberty that no law keeper can ever have.

And if so, with what justification?

The liberty we have in Christ Jesus.

It's not because you're in danger of 'burning',

True....no danger of burning for us.

it's only because it's a human rights violation, and not profitable to be evil, but not because you're going to hell if you invade Ukraine. You're not allowed to do that in MAD, am I incorrect?

So are you saying we should be up in arms about what's happening in Ukraine?
Are you suggesting we go over there to get the guns they're handing out and then fight with them?

From what I've seen with MAD is a correct understanding of the dispensations of God,
And I'll repeat. We have the liberty to do anything to do whatever the Spirit leads us to do.
Maybe I'm failing to get the point you're trying to make.

 

[Idolater]

Yes and I have NO idea where this question comes from. Sounds like a silly caricature of some kind to me.


We judge the same way that Paul did. We are to be followers of Paul... not Peter (and the eleven).


You have a strange view of the Mid-Acts Dispensational view. It looks like you have a lot of research to do before you can ask an intelligent question about it.

Yeah I won't be doing any of that.

Would it be ethical and moral, according to MAD (Mid-Acts Dispensational) ethics and or morals, to tell Vladimir Putin to NOT murder 666 Ukrainians because he'll go to hell if he does so?

I say it's ethical (according to my 'Protestant' understanding of Catholicism). What does MAD say, according to your MAD understanding of MAD?

 

[glorydaz]

Yeah I won't be doing any of that.

Would it be ethical and moral, according to MAD (Mid-Acts Dispensational) ethics and or morals, to tell Vladimir Putin to NOT murder 666 Ukrainians because he'll go to hell if he does so?

I say it's ethical (according to my 'Protestant' understanding of Catholicism). What does MAD say, according to your MAD understanding of MAD?

Do you find it profitable to tell people not to do stuff you don't like?
Especially some world leader?
Perhaps make it a law that we all be outraged against every evil that surrounds us?

What of the power of prayer?
Ethical and moral are nothing without the power of the spirit.

 

[Idolater]

Do you find it profitable to tell people not to do stuff you don't like?
Especially some world leader?
Perhaps make it a law that we all be outraged against every evil that surrounds us?

You can't. There's no real law for countries, there's only law inside of them. So if a regime does something evil like invade Ukraine and murder Ukrainians it's not like you arrest them and prosecute them in a court of law.

What of the power of prayer?
Ethical and moral are nothing without the power of the spirit.

 

[Right Divider]

Yeah I won't be doing any of that.

Would it be ethical and moral, according to MAD (Mid-Acts Dispensational) ethics and or morals, to tell Vladimir Putin to NOT murder 666 Ukrainians because he'll go to hell if he does so?

I say it's ethical (according to my 'Protestant' understanding of Catholicism). What does MAD say, according to your MAD understanding of MAD?

You're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

[Idolater]

You're just making a fool out of yourself.

Well, I'm making a fool out of something.

 

[Clete]

Are you even 'allowed' to tell people to not do something because it's evil? And if so, with what justification? It's not because you're in danger of 'burning', it's only because it's a human rights violation, and not profitable to be evil, but not because you're going to hell if you invade Ukraine. You're not allowed to do that in MAD, am I incorrect?

I absolutely have no idea what in the world you're talking about!

What does Mid-Acts Dispensationalism have to do with anyone's ethics?

 

[Idolater]

I absolutely have no idea what in the world you're talking about!

What does Mid-Acts Dispensationalism have to do with anyone's ethics?

My point exactly. MAD ethics is void.

 

[glorydaz]

You can't. There's no real law for countries, there's only law inside of them. So if a regime does something evil like invade Ukraine and murder Ukrainians it's not like you arrest them and prosecute them in a court of law.

My point exactly. If you can change it, why worry? If you can't change it, why worry?

 

[glorydaz]

My point exactly. MAD ethics is void.

I don't think you even know what rightly dividing and dispensations is all about.
If you did, you wouldn't be making any such silly statements are you do here.

 

[Idolater]

My point exactly. If you can change it, why worry? If you can't change it, why worry?

Who's talking about worrying? Not me. That's your word.

 

[Idolater]

I don't think you even know what rightly dividing and dispensations is all about.

I do. That's what this thread is all about.

If you did, you wouldn't be making any such silly statements are you do here.

I'm diagnosing MAD. I'm the doctor not the patient.

 

[glorydaz]

Who's talking about worrying? Not me. That's your word.

Oh, you sounded worried....maybe angry would be a better word.
As I see it you have NO clue what MAD is about.

Figuring out who is being addressed, by whom are they being addressed, at what time in history.

This is what we are expected to do when we read God's Word.

Consider what was required of Adam and Eve.
What was required of Noah.
What is required of those under the law?

What was required of the Jews.
What was required of the gentiles?

Why does the Bible talk about dispensations if there aren't any?
There was a dispensation of the Law, and now there is a dispensation of Grace.

Ephesians 3:2
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:



NOPE. You're simply blaming the messenger.

 

[Idolater]

Oh, you sounded worried....maybe angry would be a better word.

"Worried" and "angry" are your words.

As I see it you have NO clue what MAD is about.

Figuring out who is being addressed, by whom are they being addressed, at what time in history.

This is what we are expected to do when we read God's Word.

Consider what was required of Adam and Eve.
What was required of Noah.
What is required of those under the law?

What was required of the Jews.
What was required of the gentiles?

Why does the Bible talk about dispensations if there aren't any?
There was a dispensation of the Law, and now there is a dispensation of Grace.

Ephesians 3:2
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:



NOPE. You're simply blaming the messenger.

I know all that. You need to tie this together with ethics and morals to be on the topic.

 

[glorydaz]

"Worried" and "angry" are your words.

I know all that. You need to tie this together with ethics and morals to be on the topic.

The morals and ethics of the body of Christ are totally the work of the Spirit in us.

 

[Clete]

My point exactly. MAD ethics is void.

That isn't a point, it's you being an idiot.

Answer the question. What does believing that the body of Christ started with Paul have to do with ethics? Why would my ethics be any different than yours? Why would my understanding of justice be any different? Why would my understand of love be any different? Why would I have to mix law with grace to understand right from wrong?

THE single most stridantly anti-sin, pro-righteous living preacher I have ever met in my life was Pastor Bob Enyart of Denver Bible Church in suburban Denver Colorado. His successor may prove to be his equal in this regard if he's lucky.

 

[Right Divider]

I do. That's what this thread is all about.

I'm diagnosing MAD. I'm the doctor not the patient.

You're a quack.

 

[Right Divider]

Well, I'm making a fool out of something.

No, it's someone and that someone is you.