The Gentiles never were given the Law and were NEVER under the Law. Only God's Chosen People, the House of Israel were given the Law and lived under it.
IS M.A.D. DOCTRINE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?
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SaulToPaul 2
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Yes,
Paul- Grace NOW (atonement), through the faith of Christ
Peter- Faith and works until the end, THEN Grace (atonement).
SimpleMan77
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Show me where Peter ever preached a "law Gospel" to the Gentiles? He preached to Cornelius the death, burial and resurrection, and God filled them with the Holy Ghost.
Peter said "who was I that I could withstand God". Recounting it in Acts 15, Peter said that God had "purified their hearts through faith". Peter never preached that the Gentiles had to come under the law.
That was converted Pharisees who did not understand the grace Gospel of Peter and Paul.
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Peter preached The Kingdom Gospel to the Lost Sheep. That Gospel (Message) was about a future time when Christ will return to earth and set up His Kingdom to reign over His people, Israel. Christ will sit on the throne of David during that period of time. The Body of Christ (The Church) isn't included in that Kingdom. When a member of the Body of Christ leaves this world, they go to be with the Lord in Heaven.
Tattooed Theist
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You took Jamies reply completely out of context...
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
The ending makes clear what is actually required.
Just being baptism is holding hands with belief doesn't mean belief without baptism will result in damnation - as the author makes extraordinarily clear.
So, your suggesting we disregard anything not written by Paul?
You madists have a near obsession with Paul that I find rather odd and off putting when he is not the one who saved your soul.
I'm gonna observe for awhile and let others share some input.
1Mind1Spirit
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There's no change in the message God wanted preached. It's all the same from the OT to the NT until now.
The gospel that Christ preached called people to repentance: KJV Mark 1:14-15
It was the same call to repentance God issued in the OT: KJV Ezekiel 18:30
It is still the same call that God NOW commands all men everywhere to do, according to apostle Paul: KJV Acts 17:30
Repentance is change of mind for that which is good. Instead of doing evil, do good. IOW, overcome evil with good (Rom 12:21). And overcomers will Christ NOT blot out from the book life (Rev 3:5).
All start out in life NOT lost because of Christ - the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. And to be NOT lost is to be in Christ. And being in Christ Who is our strength, we can overcome evil with good. But if we let evil overcome us instead of us overcoming it with good, then sorry. When we die not an overcomer, our names will Christ blot out from the book of life, and we are lost forever (Rev 20:15; 21:27).
The message of the gospel that Christ preached is the same message of the gospel that Paul preached. Sadly, the message of the gospel that most preachers of today preach, is different.
Why different? Because the message of the gospel they preach presupposes that people are born in sin, hence, born lost, being APART from or not in Christ. To be in Christ, they say, people must first believe and accept the gospel. This is requiring people who they said are still not in Christ to do SOMETHING to be in Christ Who said people can do NOTHING when apart from Him.
But these preachers can't see the paradox yet in what they preach. Hope they soon will.
So, I see you are your own "Mentor." You post something, then, you create a post about the post you previously posted. That's quite an operation you have going for yourself.
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Don't think for a second, I don't appreciate your immensely popular Ignorance. I truly do. I just don't say it often enough.
I surely hope you're not overly offended? Why I couldn't live with myself if I thought for a second YOU were offended.
You were saying you want this thread to be civil. But your style of response, instead of addressing what was posted attacks the poster.
That's MY prerogative, not yours. If ya can't take the heat, get outta Dodge Partner.
Paul taught that Gentiles are promised the Spirit through faith is Jesus Christ.
In Galatians 3:9 Paul said, "So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham."
In Romans 4:16 Paul asserts that Abraham is the father of us all.
The only relationship with God for Gentiles is through Abraham.
Salvation is only for the descendants of Abraham through faith.
I'm sharing the "True Gospel" in this thread. Create your own thread and set your own rules. Understand? Probably not?
Guess what? Abraham was a Gentile.
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