You haven't been here long have you?
No, not here. Please elaborate.
You haven't been here long have you?
No, not here. Please elaborate.
Regardless of your sarcasm, when you wrote this:
Where have I said that?
Oh, I get it.
You did not understand the sarcasm.
I beg your forgiveness for not having an emoticom. Tambora was kind enough to provide me with a few.
So, here it is.
At least jzeidler, to whom I was responding, understood the sarcasm without the emoticom.
... you seem to indicate that you think that MAD gives a "license to sin".And God will be so pleased with me insulting you, right, because, you know, how it goes, God has died on the Cross of Calvary so that I can freely continue to sin? Thank you for the lesson.
Then you might want to try reading the verse in context, since Paul's entire teaching is that he was not presently a sinner.
You should note that BEFORE he received mercy, he was a blasphemer, etc. He considered himself to be at the top (chief) of a list of blasphemers for instance.
Thus, his "I am chief" refers to his standing on a list...not his present state. Why would he have said we were to be imitators of him if he was the chief of sinners? :think:
In nothing was he behind the chiefest apostles.
Corinthians 11:5
For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
2 Corinthians 12:11
I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.
This is the chiefest of sinners?
1 Thess. 2:9-10
For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God. Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:
How about this?
2 Corinthians 4:1-2
Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
Regardless of your sarcasm, when you wrote this:
... you seem to indicate that you think that MAD gives a "license to sin".
In many of your previous post I read similar statements.
Then I apologize for misunderstanding your positionI have NEVER nor will I EVER say that MAD gives a 'license to sin' for I know that is NOT what MAD teaches, even though I am not MAD.
That is YOU, Right Divider, reading into what I have not written.
Stick around for a while, and you will understand the why of the responses.
The OP was do we need to say the Lords prayer for forgiveness , right? The answer is no, not in my understanding.
Then I apologize for misunderstanding your position
So do I rightly understand that you believe that we should ask for forgiveness on a regular basis?
TOL seems to have a lot of members, where would you go if you were me?
Click on the 'Active' and go down the list and see if any one of the titles call your attention and participate. That's what I do.
In some of the groups you will have to ask permission to participate in.
You don't have to do anything what Jesus says if you don't esteem His word.
blessings.
Thank you and, let God have mercy on you too.
Your testimony stinks like sulfur! You believe not that your trespasses are already forgiven. Colossians 2:13 KJVgive us this day
our daily bread
and
forgive us our trespasses
it is in the bible
The Law condemns no one. You are the one who condemn yourself when the Law shows you what you have done. If we had a savior for our transgressions of the Law, there would be no transgressors of the Law.
Romans 6:23 KJVHowever, we must pay for our transgressions of the Law in order to prevent new transgressions further on. If you read Isaiah 43:3, Yahweh is our only savior.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with any of us!Yes, it is so sad that simple verse like this seems to be disregarded.
Your testimony stinks like sulfur! You believe not that your trespasses are already forgiven. Colossians 2:13 KJV
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV
He gives grace to everyone. How we respond to His grace is different matter.
It's not to you Matthew 15:24 KJV, Romans 15:8 KJV but you wrongly apply it to yourself as Catholics often do. Why don't you believe the testimony of Paul written TO us that all of our trespasses are forgiven (Colossians 2:13 KJV)?not my testimony
just quoting the bible
Ok, lets look at the other side of that coin.
If I did esteem His Word, would anything I did be worth anything?