Is America great?

[Sancocho]

He wants a theocracy.

I would take anything that stops the shedding of the blood of innocents all in the name of subordinating the Word of God.

 

[Dan Emanuel]

On the contrary, it is the most fertile soil of the "modified Word of God" and that is why it is home to more denominations than any other country not to mention it kills it's own children at levels only seen during major wars and corrupts them in public schools where Christian education is not allowed. On top of that the US promotes abortion and homosexual marriage around the world. The US will go down in history as one of the most offending Christian nations ever to exist, due in large part to subordinating the Word of God to man's laws and even worse, changing them. No one has tried to separate the Body of Christ more than Americans, and it shows with easily more than a million denominations counting all the individuals who create their own beliefs.

For those who think somehow every other nations is just as bad as the US, think again. Many real countries prohibit abortion and homosexual marriage and indoctrination and require Christian education in schools. Of course many Americans won't recognize this because they are poor countries who, according to the "Prosperity Gospel" are being "punished" for not being of the correct denomination, whichever one that may be of millions.

The right to religious liberty . . . ought to be acknowledged in the juridical order of society in such a way that it constitutes a civil right.​

The pope's say this. In America we obey the pope's, even in spite of ourselve's.


Daniel

 

[annabenedetti]

No, not at all, people of color did not intrude on those who debased them,

So you're saying that homosexuals intrude on those who debase them?

To a lessor degree the whites, or Anglo Saxons, have been rude and demeaning to Spanish, Latino, French, Creole an anyone who is not like them. If they looks different, or acted different, or worshiped different, they were mistreated and disrespected.

Homosexuals are mainly from privileged groups and they choose to be weird; they do not want to grow up, rather they want perceptual adolescence. They do not want to be fathers and support a family, or be mothers and have to care for children, they rather be the children, always wanting. Then when the greater society tells them they cannot have children, then that cry about it and insist they have a right to them. The same with marriage, no they could not settle for civil unions where they could have had all the same legal rights married persons do, they had to have the marriage institution also.

They are in all ways disgusting self-selected degenerates. They want to be different and have everyone's attention, as if to say, "Look at me, how different I am and there is nothing you can do to stop me!" I hope they all face the final Judgement and then find out at last they will not get away with pushing their ideas on anyone anymore!

You know, Kat, I have a relative who's gay. He's been married to his husband for quite some time now. I wouldn't want him to be around someone who would treat him as if he was too disgusting to have near, and I'd want to protect him from some of the people who post here, like those so-called Christians who'd stone him or imprison him because of his sexual identity.

It's the behavior of Christians on this forum that has profoundly changed my thinking about same sex marriage and the need for civil protections for all the citizens of this country. It's been quite an education.

 

[Jose Fly]

I'd want to protect him from some of the people who post here, like those so-called Christians who'd stone him or imprison him because of his sexual identity.

They're just cowards on the internet who talk tough. Most of 'em are too old and/or fat to lift themselves out of their mobility scooters, let alone take anyone prisoner.

It's the behavior of Christians on this forum that has profoundly changed my thinking about same sex marriage and the need for civil protections for all the citizens of this country. It's been quite an education.

Seeing hate first hand is pretty eye-opening, isn't it?

 

[bybee]

So you're saying that homosexuals intrude on those who debase them?



You know, Kat, I have a relative who's gay. He's been married to his husband for quite some time now. I wouldn't want him to be around someone who would treat him as if he was too disgusting to have near, and I'd want to protect him from some of the people who post here, like those so-called Christians who'd stone him or imprison him because of his sexual identity.

It's the behavior of Christians on this forum that has profoundly changed my thinking about same sex marriage and the need for civil protections for all the citizens of this country. It's been quite an education.

One cannot have rights unless all have rights. It is not required that all agree with all but freedom to choose for all is imperative.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If it weren't for the U.S. the world would be ruled by communism. That's a fact.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

One cannot have rights unless all have rights. It is not required that all agree with all but freedom to choose for all is imperative.

Amen!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I hate that they kill and corrupt their children and worse they are trying to coerce real Christian countries to do the same.

You would have us believe apparently that the US is no worse than any other country and actually even better no doubt but that would only be in the eyes of the world but certainly not the Gospel.

So, I take it that you believe the Latin countries are the greatest, right?

 

[Town Heretic]

I hate that they kill and corrupt their children and worse they are trying to coerce real Christian countries to do the same.

There he goes turning whole countries into children who can't make their own moral decisions. It's our fault. lain:

You would have us believe apparently that the US is no worse than any other country and actually even better no doubt but that would only be in the eyes of the world but certainly not the Gospel.

I think it's interesting how this expat keeps harping on the U.S. and manipulates numbers, anything to keep the focus and condemnation there.

 

[Dan Emanuel]

If it weren't for the U.S. the world would be ruled by communism. That's a fact.

And it was very deliberate, not by accident.


Daniel

 

[Shasta]

Morality that is forced is not morality, it is obedience. In the history of the world more damages and horrendous acts of mass violence have come from obedience than from disobedience.

Murder is against the moral law. Does this "morality can't be forced" principle of yours apply to that too? What about stealing?

 

[Shasta]

To answer the question, it is hard to ascribe too much greatness to a Country which I expect to be expanding the persecution of Christians beyond a mere assault on cake shops to a full scale war on the free exercise of our faith and our right to free speech. All of this will, ironically, take place under the banner of tolerance and compassion.

 

[Nick M]

You know, Kat, I have a relative who's a sodomite.

He is every bit the pervert you are. You are both going to hell.

:mock: annabenedetti

 

[annabenedetti]

He is every bit the pervert you are. You are both going to hell.

:mock: annabenedetti

Hell is anywhere you are.

And for the record, you perverted my quote.

 

[chrysostom]

Hell is anywhere you are.

And for the record, you perverted my quote.

he is on my ignore list

 

[Sancocho]

If it weren't for the U.S. the world would be ruled by communism. That's a fact.

The Bible has examples of where God uses a godless nation for His purpose.

 

[Sancocho]

There he goes turning whole countries into children who can't make their own moral decisions. It's our fault. lain:


I think it's interesting how this expat keeps harping on the U.S. and manipulates numbers, anything to keep the focus and condemnation there.

You are quite confused. The majority of Central Americans want nothing to do with the drug trade but have to suffer the consequences of a small percentage that work to feed America's increasing drug problem. Therefore, claiming that somehow the majority of the poor Hispanics are somehow to fault for a minority of criminals is the same as saying the majority of Americans are at faults for those that use drugs.

Also, if you have a problem with my "numbers" please post them here instead of making claims that can't be verified.

 

[Tambora]

You know, Kat, I have a relative who's gay.

You do realize the perversion that entails, don't you?

He's been married to his husband for quite some time now.

Not in God's eyes.

I wouldn't want him to be around someone who would treat him as if he was too disgusting to have near, and I'd want to protect him from some of the people who post here, like those so-called Christians who'd stone him or imprison him because of his sexual identity.

I get not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
I really do.
But there is much more to a person than just their sexual desires.
In that regard, we don't like hurting anyone's feelings.
But there are certain desires that are abominable. It is only those abominable desires that we object to (not everything about the person).

It's the behavior of Christians on this forum that has profoundly changed my thinking about same sex marriage and the need for civil protections for all the citizens of this country. It's been quite an education.

In case you haven't realized it, they want you to no longer be offended by butt poking.

Have you now reached that acceptance?

 

[Jose Fly]

To answer the question, it is hard to ascribe too much greatness to a Country which I expect to be expanding the persecution of Christians beyond a mere assault on cake shops to a full scale war on the free exercise of our faith and our right to free speech. All of this will, ironically, take place under the banner of tolerance and compassion.

After seeing this sort of "we're all about to be persecuted" meme from so many different fundamentalists, so often, I'm convinced that you guys want this to happen.

 

[Town Heretic]

You are quite confused.

Sometimes but not where you're concerned.

The majority of Central Americans want nothing to do with the drug trade but have to suffer the consequences of a small percentage that work to feed America's increasing drug problem.

It's a bit more problematic for much of the region, but I suppose I could quote you from the other thread when you essentially set the whole mess and responsibility for it at the feet of demand. Stuff and nonsense.

Therefore, claiming that somehow the majority of the poor Hispanics are somehow to fault for a minority of criminals is the same as saying the majority of Americans are at faults for those that use drugs.

That would be damning had I, in fact, done that. Sadly, no.

Also, if you have a problem with my "numbers" please post them here instead of making claims that can't be verified.

I'll post links to the other thread where you reinvented the chart a little later, thanks. I think it would be instructive as to your methodology and mindset.