Cross Reference
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You probably believe you could. You believe anything. Such is the way of one who believes nothing.
ECT If you have reduced the message of Jesus Christ . . . . .
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You probably believe you could. You believe anything. Such is the way of one who believes nothing.
Cross Reference
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So is that a "no"? You can sin your way out of salvation?
Well, there you go again, Nick...
"I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience..."-Dutch Reagan, to Wally Mondale
The above, in response to brother Nick the great's...
"Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
Can you murder your boss today and still be saved?"
Besides murder,CrissCross, tell us the sins for which your fake saviour, your impotent, bumbling, fumbing, stumbling probation officer, did not die.
Unpack it for us. And tell us which bad thoughts are not forgiven.
Let me guess: Others' bad thoughts, not yours.
Get saved, wolfie.
Lon
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We can do stupid stuff, yes. Even Christians. I 'think' we are less and less likely to do so because God is working in us and through us toward righteousness as we become more like the one we love, in a practical sense. We become like those we hang around. Christians love Christ. King David, the man after God's own heart and the one God said served Him with a whole heart, certainly had this and other problems. It was 'after' this that God said he had a whole-heart after Him. Acts 13:22
Romans 8:1
musterion
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Prove it. Answer his question.
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How 'bout I just you on ignore and not be concerned about your stupid baiting questions. Yer an idiot. G'bye.
musterion
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So I spoke truth.
Well?
Those two passage alone require that a good 14 questions or so first be asked and then answered before one should allow oneself to conclude one knows what those two passages are talking about.
And seeking the answers to said 14 questions or so, result in 60 passages or more for the answers.
And that is just on those two passages.
That does not even begin to address the 28 passages those two are based on right there in Luke 19.
Nor does it even begin to address said 28 passages' over 600 words or so; many of which require the same kind of disciplined, individual scrutiny.
But doing all that is not a bad trade off - for all that time one not only ends up in Scripture searching all that out, but for all the information it results in, in one's memory bank, and thus, of much use in one's next excursion in Scripture, searching out one thing or another.
Best of all, one not only ends up dealing one on one with Scripture itself; but all the time this requires does not allow for much time in an OVER reliance on endless "commentaries" supposedly "Bible based."
After this kind of time in Scripture, it becomes very obvious that such "commentaries" are, in their endless conjecture about as consistently "reliable" as the endless conjecture of "historian."
Try the Scripture as to the above passage...
Some 14 questions or so, just in those two passages.
The best to you in this...
Poe's Law
Sometimes I like to point it out. I don't know why :chuckle:
A lot of people, I've come to realize, don't fully comprehend the problem in the concept of being able to 'fall in and out of salvation'.
There's 'Infusion' and 'Imputed Righteousness', one more so Catholic and one more so Reformed, and which one teaches 'falling in and out' where the other states otherwise.
We an bypass all those questions. It has been given to Jesus to impart salvation to whom he will.
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Jesus wasn't imparting anything. He was merely announcing Himself.
Nope; the salvation there is specific to "their meat in due season."
As for your bypassing the above, Jamie, I think I'll take a pass on your offer to join you in the obvious actual source of your "bliss..."
You should know.
Yep...