Identity By Ideology
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you are the walrus. i am the eggman. stuck in the middle with you. sweaty teddy:jazz:
what makes you think they do?
because you see them interviewed on tv in the context of their ideologies?
if you asked me at a scout awards meeting what i was, i would have said i'm an adult leader and the father of two scouts
if you ask me at school what i am, i'll say that i'm a freshman student
if you ask me at a tea party rally what i am, i'll probably say that i'm a conservative
if you ask me, absent any other context, what i am, my first response will probably be that i'm the father of two boys
do yourself a favor purex, and unplug
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Quincy
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Perhaps some people grew up in families or churches where they learned to value exoteric ideals too much. Indoctrination, I suppose. Though that doesn't explain why people do that in the first place. It's probably some side effect of being a social creature. We have to establish those cliques and defend them, I guess.
PureX
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So why do you think so many people are identifying themselves via their ideology, these days? What's changed?
(By the way, that was a great observation about utopianism. That has been a distinctly American ideological phenomena in the U.S. for many years, thought it's rare, even here.)
PureX
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I think we humans do sometimes use the 'us vs them' pattern of ideological warfare to establish and maintain our sub-group unity. But that doesn't necessarily explain why the sudden and dramatic increase in this phenomena.
In my dad's generation there were all kinds of social groups one could join for interaction. My dad was a member of the local Lions Club, the local Usher's Club, and he was a volunteer fireman. Yet although each of these groups had their own purpose and identity, they weren't based on any particular ideology, so much as they were based on a mutual desire for fellowship and community service. They didn't really care who was a republican or a democrat, or who was a liberal or a conservative, or who was sleeping with whom.
Now days, these clubs are all disappearing, because people don't join together simply for the sake of human fellowship and community service, anymore. They're too busy judging and condemning each other's behaviors and ideologies.
that was before the feminists took over the democratic party
and
made abortion their number one issue
PureX
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That was before the wrongness of abortion took over your brain and left your head an empty shell.
are you saying feminists did not take over the democratic party
and
that abortion is not their number one issue?
The Berean
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Quincy
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Hey, maybe more than just time is a flat circle. Maybe human behavior is cyclical and like many other empires, we'll just implode with nothing the cause of it other than instinct and a touch of fate.
The Berean
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when offered my choice of slave
Wait, I thought Rochester, NY was a bastion of Abolitionist thought? :think:
PureX
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One of the things I find puzzling about this phenomena is that one of the common tenets of the world's major religions is that the ego must be controlled, or subjugated in some way. Nearly every religion on Earth has recognized that the root of a great percentage of human suffering is the result of human ego: that auto-defense mechanism that develops and protects one's idea of oneself. Which makes it all the more odd, then, that so many religionists these days are confusing their idea of God and divine righteousness with their own ego-centric identities, and fancying themselves as divine policemen, and the spokespeople for God's own truth, will, and judgment. This would seem to me to be the height of egotism, rather than the subjugation of it.