I agree with Trump on China -- Here's why

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Every American is rich in comparison with Haitians or other people from poor nations, so why do democrats portray rich people (especially rich white people) as evil?
They look at the tax burden and the government services offered by other democracies and they feel that by comparison we're 'greedy' and we should welcome paying something like 45-50% of our income in taxes.

Big fight.
 

marke

Well-known member
They look at the tax burden and the government services offered by other democracies and they feel that by comparison we're 'greedy' and we should welcome paying something like 45-50% of our income in taxes.

Big fight.
The mindset of unsaved people in the world is that the government is responsible for caring for people and providing for their needs, not God. The more the government does the bigger the government must be and the more money must be taken from citizens to feed that government. Sadly, the way socialism works is that people must pay more to the government to provide for their needs than they would have had to pay without government involvement to provide for their own needs.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
The mindset of unsaved people in the world is that the government is responsible for caring for people and providing for their needs, not God.
That's a false dilemma. There's no moral reason we can't believe that our governments should provide the public with more services.
The more the government does the bigger the government must be and the more money must be taken from citizens to feed that government.
True. But if a country is democratic, and the people democratically decide to increase their tax burden, then what is the problem with that?
Sadly, the way socialism works is that people must pay more to the government to provide for their needs than they would have had to pay without government involvement to provide for their own needs.
That's true. The government is bloated, not well managed. It also employs like 10% of Americans, when counting not just federal but all state and local municipalities, so to significantly trim it would require mass layoffs that would affect our economy.

And it's true that if you have an edge you are capable of getting the same government services at higher quality and at lower cost, but most people don't have an edge in every area, so for those areas where you have no edge, having the government as a 'fallback' option isn't the worst thing in the world I don't think.
 

marke

Well-known member
That's a false dilemma. There's no moral reason we can't believe that our governments should provide the public with more services.

True. But if a country is democratic, and the people democratically decide to increase their tax burden, then what is the problem with that?

That's true. The government is bloated, not well managed. It also employs like 10% of Americans, when counting not just federal but all state and local municipalities, so to significantly trim it would require mass layoffs that would affect our economy.

And it's true that if you have an edge you are capable of getting the same government services at higher quality and at lower cost, but most people don't have an edge in every area, so for those areas where you have no edge, having the government as a 'fallback' option isn't the worst thing in the world I don't think.

That's a false dilemma. There's no moral reason we can't believe that our governments should provide the public with more services.

Christians and conservatives like me know atheistic governments tend to become substitutes for God to unbelievers, often leading to dangerous consequences as governments gradually take on the powers that belong to God, not men.

True. But if a country is democratic, and the people democratically decide to increase their tax burden, then what is the problem with that?

Those nations claiming to be democratic do not long support big government fascism in the name of democracy. Look at how the Canadians are telling their Marsixt fascist leaders that they have had enough of their fascist Marxist crap.

That's true. The government is bloated, not well managed. It also employs like 10% of Americans, when counting not just federal but all state and local municipalities, so to significantly trim it would require mass layoffs that would affect our economy.

An over-bloated government is doomed to failure. No communist, socialist big government in history has had a long life of happiness and prosperity.

And it's true that if you have an edge you are capable of getting the same government services at higher quality and at lower cost, but most people don't have an edge in every area, so for those areas where you have no edge, having the government as a 'fallback' option isn't the worst thing in the world I don't think.

In an atheistic, communistic, hedonistic, humanistic, Marxist nation the only beneficiaries of government largesse are those taking advantage of the majority of taxpayers who come up with the short end of the stick when it comes to measuring their benefits alongside their taxes that are required to fund such government largesse.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
And who is it that is constantly bombarding you with stories that Trump is a racist for calling it the China virus?
Democrats.
Maybe, just maybe, you're choosing the wrong people to trust. If they are lying about this, what else are they lying to you about? A known liar is no one to trust. Nothing they say is to be accepted at face value if you want to know truth.
Can't argue with you.
 
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