Hurting People On TOL

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IMJerusha

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Spoken like a cleaner rat than the rest. Yeah, I hear ya, clean rat. All you workers preach the same tired old message. He doesn't keep you. He doesn't pull you out of those ditches you fall into....you just climb out and dust yourself off. What a good little worker bee you are....I guess in the ages to come, you'll have something to boast about. "I was a better listener than that guy. I was a good little worker bee." "If it weren't for ME, I wouldn't be saved at all. :thumb:

And now you sink to demeaning again. It's funny...not funny ha ha but funny peculiar. If you were so stable in Yeshua, you wouldn't be going up and down on the sin ladder. Apparently, there are better listeners than others.
 

IMJerusha

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hmmm ! Just milk please! :chew::cheers:

:cheers: We want MEAT!!
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Oh gosh, milk and meat together....OH NOOooooo! :) :D :rotfl: :chuckle: :)

2 Peter 3:13-18
"But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells. So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." TO HIM BE GLORY!!!!!
 

glorydaz

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And now you sink to demeaning again. It's funny...not funny ha ha but funny peculiar. If you were so stable in Yeshua, you wouldn't be going up and down on the sin ladder. Apparently, there are better listeners than others.

The "sin ladder"? What kind of a nut are you? All true believers...those who have assurance of salvation....have been created IN CHRIST Jesus. It's why we have perfect PEACE and fullness of JOY. (Have you heard of that? You sure don't preach it. You preach fear and doubt and your own specialness.) :nono:

Being born of the Spirit means we are new creatures and all things are new (even our desires). :duh: You don't know that, which is why you are so worried about not abiding, and why you preach it's our ability to abide that will earn us salvation. Not good. In fact, it's down right spitting on the cross to even speak of it.

There is no "going up and down" on the "sin ladder" for the spiritual man. We go around and around, hour by hour, day by day, season by season, year in and year out wearing a deep groove in the paths (cycles) of righteousness. After all, we are HIS workmanship (not our own). He makes us to will and to do His good pleasure. Like that ditch at the grain mill the "yoked" oxen wear so deep, it's a rut....it comes so natural to us we don't have to worry and obsess about whether we are able to "abide in Christ" or not, because HE abides in us. That's the Comforter...who abides in us FOREVER. That's the Good News.....the COMFORTER....He's called that for a reason. You know, that one you don't actually know because you are stuck on the wrong side of the cross, and He came AFTER the cross?
 

IMJerusha

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The "sin ladder"? What kind of a nut are you? All true believers...those who have assurance of salvation....have been created IN CHRIST Jesus. It's why we have perfect PEACE and fullness of JOY. (Have you heard of that? You sure don't preach it. You preach fear and doubt and your own specialness.) :nono:

Being born of the Spirit means we are new creatures and all things are new (even our desires). :duh: You don't know that, which is why you are so worried about not abiding, and why you preach it's our ability to abide that will earn us salvation. Not good. In fact, it's down right spitting on the cross to even speak of it.

There is no "going up and down" on the "sin ladder" for the spiritual man. We go around and around, hour by hour, day by day, season by season, year in and year out wearing a deep groove in the paths (cycles) of righteousness. After all, we are HIS workmanship (not our own). He makes us to will and to do His good pleasure. Like that ditch at the grain mill the "yoked" oxen wear so deep, it's a rut....it comes so natural to us we don't have to worry and obsess about whether we are able to "abide in Christ" or not, because HE abides in us. That's the Comforter...who abides in us FOREVER. That's the Good News.....the COMFORTER....He's called that for a reason. You know, that one you don't actually know because you are stuck on the wrong side of the cross, and He came AFTER the cross?

Sorry, your doctrine throws out too much Scripture and casts a pall on obedience to Yeshua for love of Him. It casts a pall on all who pick up their cross every day to follow Him. There is no wrong side of the Cross, Glorydaz because followers of Yeshua are under the Cross and it is defined by obedience and faithfulness to Him. No one in Yeshua worries and stresses over the leading of the Ruach. You keep wanting so much to put obedience under the Law. It's not there anymore just as we are not there anymore.
 

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2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2Pe 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord,
2Pe 1:3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
2Pe 1:4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge,
2Pe 1:6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
2Pe 1:7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.

2Pe 1:8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
2Pe 1:10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
2Pe 1:11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
 

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Sorry, your doctrine throws out too much Scripture and casts a pall on obedience to Yeshua for love of Him. It casts a pall on all who pick up their cross every day to follow Him. There is no wrong side of the Cross, Glorydaz because followers of Yeshua are under the Cross and it is defined by obedience and faithfulness to Him. No one in Yeshua worries and stresses over the leading of the Ruach. You keep wanting so much to put obedience under the Law. It's not there anymore just as we are not there anymore.

I agree.

Many are teaching lawlessness.

LA
 

glorydaz

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2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2Pe 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord,
2Pe 1:3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
2Pe 1:4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge,
2Pe 1:6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
2Pe 1:7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.

2Pe 1:8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
2Pe 1:10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
2Pe 1:11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

"Brotherly kindness".....but..... the workers who claim they are co-saviours with Christ, we expose as the wolves they are.
 

IMJerusha

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Workers always unite. They call it a labor union for good reason. Romans 10:2-4KJV

And there you go AGAIN with the old rhetoric. The obedience that comes from the leading of the Ruach has nothing to do with trying to establish what only Yeshua could. Obedience that comes from the leading of the Ruach IS righteousness from God.
 

glorydaz

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Who can look bad in Yeshua?

Those who are the hangers on (sucker banches---- never attaching or nourished by the root)....like Judas who was cut off the vine (unbelievers)....never having believed to begin with. Your wrong use of John 15 has caused you a great deal of confusion. :think:
 

IMJerusha

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"Brotherly kindness".....but..... the workers who claim they are co-saviours with Christ, we expose as the wolves they are.

AGAIN with the rhetoric. It's amazing what you will do/say/post to be able to wallow in disobedience. The fruit of the Ruach is not a claim of co-saviorship. For your own sake, I wish you would stop dismissing the work of the Ruach in the Body.
 

glorydaz

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And there you go AGAIN with the old rhetoric. The obedience that comes from the leading of the Ruach has nothing to do with trying to establish what only Yeshua could. Obedience that comes from the leading of the Ruach IS righteousness from God.

I've never seen anyone who could sling the crap like you do. :first:
 
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