How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

Lon

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My advice is to go in knowing that you're not going to get them to move an inch off their doctrine no matter what you say or how you say it.
You've moved me on a couple of points. It is my objective in debate, not to 'change' but to plant and water because God gives increase. In order to move from my entrenched position, God has to challenge me through scripture. It has to be there where anybody will change so I urge 1) everyone to spend lots of time in scripture where we are made and molded and 2) to bring up pertinent scriptures. They move us, and not we them. Hopefully some encouragement for you Clete. Scripture ftw.
 

Lon

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Main stream, more or less Baptist doctrine. Why do you ask?
My question stemmed from this and other articles. My first encounter with Open Theists was largely from the Charismatic churches. Later, when involved with Southern Baptists, Open Theism came up under council scrutiny. It seems there is a good number who came from Reformed circles (Derf above) who are reactionary against Reformed doctrines, thus leaned entirely the other way: Open Theism.
 

Derf

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My question stemmed from this and other articles. My first encounter with Open Theists was largely from the Charismatic churches. Later, when involved with Southern Baptists, Open Theism came up under council scrutiny. It seems there is a good number who came from Reformed circles (Derf above) who are reactionary against Reformed doctrines, thus leaned entirely the other way: Open Theism.
My journey was more "through" reformed circles rather than "from" them. But I also believe the reformed ideas make more sense than the Baptistic ones about how God could know our eventual decision(s).
 
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