How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

Gurucam

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The dead are controlled by the demonic use of Secret Electriciy. Most of the living deny that there is Secret Electricity. But Secret Electricity is a power that the demons crave. It is a power given to Christians. Not these phony 'christians' that you warn us against. Real Christians have this power. We are to use this power to control and defeat the demonic. We are going to control all of the Angelic Host with this Secret Electricity.

I am do not know what 'secret electricity' describes. It might be some 'half baked' idea which is being used to keep the spiritually dead in fear and controlled.

However the idea which you raised is a very interesting and informative subject.

I can share it with you in very reasonable details. Just the simple knowing of this information empowers humans.

It has to do with the human brain and the cosmic brain. They are two things that actually exist. They are extremely similar. It has to do with their make up.

Knowing and understanding the actual make up of these brains and the function of all component empowers one.

Many old tradition are centered on supporting/nourishing all the components of both brains which support our three minds.

I will write about it a little latter. I have to attend to another matter at this time.

 
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Gurucam

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The dead are controlled by the demonic use of Secret Electriciy. Most of the living deny that there is Secret Electricity. But Secret Electricity is a power that the demons crave. It is a power given to Christians. Not these phony 'christians' that you warn us against. Real Christians have this power. We are to use this power to control and defeat the demonic. We are going to control all of the Angelic Host with this Secret Electricity.

Is this all you know about secret electricity? I do know that such a force exist.

1. The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

2. The KJV N.T. confirms that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is a perfect amalgam of two things. These are a.) the ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's own heart or spirit and b.) the Holy Ghost (i.e. the will of God).

3. This perfect amalgam of a.) the ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's own heart or spirit and b.) the Holy Ghost (i.e. the will of God) is described as 'what the Spirit (of Jesus) has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do'.

4.This means that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has a different 'mind' for each persons.

5. The KJV N.T. confirms that one must search one's heart or spirit to come to know 'what the Spirit (of Jesus) has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do'.

6.One who is led into all their works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do' is in Christ. They are Christians. Only they are Christians. They are also described as 'children of God'.

7. The KJV N.T. has no mention of 'secret electricity'. Nor does it mention that 'secret electricity' is a power given to Christians.

8. Please share where you got that idea or belief in the opening quote?

9. Some person (or group of people) seems to be making that up to scare and control their charges . . . and so keep then in servitude under the promise that they need to be protected from the demons?

10. Fact is God is for one who is 'in Christ'. No entity or force can do them any thing.

11. Nothing (not even secret electricity???) can help one. Only coming onto Christ can and will help, protect and deliver, one from All things.

12. One can have Gifts of the Spirit. However even those with these gift can and do misuse them. That is they can and do help the wrong people and can also be overpowered. However being in Christ (being a child of God) enables even these people with Gifts of the Spirit to use their gifts according to the will of God. And so they get absolute protection from God.

13. The KJV N.T. also confirmed that even those with Gift of the Spirit still groan for adoption as children of God. They still groan to be Christians. Only those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus are 'children of God or Christians. Having Gift of the Spirit and even practicing these Gift is nothing. This does not make one a child of God, 'in Christ' and/or Christian.
 

Gurucam

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dialm .

continuing from post 121

Do you know that 'outer space' is a brain similar to our human brain?

Do you know that 'NASA Chandra observatory satellite' was able to capture pictures of this 'not seen' (none physical) fabric of outer-space which exist between and connects the sun and other heavenly bodies. This brain that is outer-space has neuron, neuron media and pathways for nourishment to flow, just like a human brain. Heavenly bodies are nuclei within and part of this cosmic brain.

Apparently outer-space is a huge living brain. As is above, so is bellow.

Prior to this, our modern scientists all believed, promoted and projected that outer-space was all empty space. (this is similar to the 'earth is flat' idea which dominated and ruled in the 1400's). Our modern scientists held that very erroneous belief about outer-space, up to quite recently. Also that erroneous belief informed all their outer-space experiments, programs and activities up to quite recently.

This 'new to them' discovery (that outer-space is living pulsing brain) is probably why they stopped sending humans, physically, into outer-space. It is possible that astronauts realized this fact while in outer-space.

The computer transformation of these pictures of outer-space from 'NASA Chandra observatory satellite' is almost identical to a picture of our own brain.

Fact is, both brains (i.e. the one in outer-space and our own brain) contain living neurons, in living media. There are also pathways for nourishing the neurons and media of both brains.

Both brains supports minds. One is individual and the other cosmic and they are intrinsically matched and connected.

The neurons and media of both brains can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished. This must be actively done in order to sustain highest quality and health of both brains. The health and quality of these brains directly correlates to the health and qualities of the minds which each of them (each brain) support.

The neurons and media of each person's brain can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished so as to sustain each person's mind to its highest expression.

Also neurons and media of the macro outer-space brain can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished so as to sustain the highest expression of the cosmic mind.

Both these brains function through electrical and magnetic impulses. Is what you are calling 'secret electricity' related to this knowledge? Or are you referring to 'kundalini awakening'.

Fact is power does lie in having perfect transmission of electrical impulses in both brains. However this depends directly on perfectly maintained and perfectly functioning brains.

Therefore having power simply starts with knowing how to properly nourish both brains and actually nourishing both brains . . . in the same way that one must know how to nourish and also actually nourish all other organs of our physical body.

Fact is burning things like fossil fuel destroys or sicken components of the (living) cosmic brain This undermine the (living) cosmic mind which the cosmic brain supports. Enough of this activity results in making earth a total hell.

On the other hand burning other appropriate things nourishes the (living) cosmic brain. This strengthens the (living) cosmic mind which the cosmic brain supports. Enough of this activity results in making earth a total heaven.

Earth is a living thing in the living cosmic brain. It is also a living part of the living cosmic brain. Uninformed activity on earth are toxic for earth, in a very 'living' manner. Uninformed activities on earth cause earth to be diseased, in a very living manner. Earth becomes a diseased part in the cosmic brain. Then the cosmic mind must respond to correct the disease in its cosmic brain.

The way in which the cosmic mind can correct this disease in the earth part of its brain can be very detrimental, to those who cause the disease. The 'organisms' responsible for the earth's illness are inevitably entangled with their destructive works on earth. Through this entanglement they are naturally and spontaneously identified and eventually isolated and teleported out of earth. These are generally spiritually dead/mindless people.

The cosmic mind use the same approach which our own mind use to isolate and vanquish organism which cause disease in our human body. Both minds know precisely and accurately which individual organisms are the causative ones with absolute omniscience and omnipotence. There are absolute no secretes any where.

The detective agencies of the creation use vibrations. Each person has a signature vibration which is being transmitted perpetually. These tell each person's eternal 'story' (their history and disposition) loudly and absolutely accurately, in clear cosmic language, all the time.

The macro cosmic mind is all knowing and all powerful. The vibration blue print of each person is the fabric of their entanglement. People on earth who through their uninformed self empowering activities, have actively created disease in earth and in the cosmos cannot hide. Their work is a direct reflection and expression of their entanglement. And their entanglement is a direct reflection and expression of their work.

These are the past leader in all fields on earth. They ruled every where on earth for the past 2000 odd years. Their ideas rules and dominated on earth. Their entanglement and work related to promoting their own physical/material survival and/or prosperity with no regard for 1.) the environment and/or 2.) the liberation of humans onto their higher minds. They were and are all spiritually dead people.

Now the macro creation is fighting back. These erring people will certainly try to run and even hide. However they cannot hide from the ever vibration/pulsing of their own commonly shared entanglement. Individually and accurately, they will all be naturally and spontaneously detected, isolated and teleported out-of-here, in one fraction of a second, soon.

Their identity are fully describes in my other related posts.

This information which I am sharing here, is not known (in its entirety) to even the most well equipped, well recognized, well celebrated and well provided for, modern scientists and other past leaders and the billions entangled with them and their ideas. It is not known in coherence and totality. At least not yet. However it is inevitable that too late will be their cry.

'Too late' will not be the cry of others, who include the informed, helpless and meek (they will inherit earth).

My other writings will be absolutely about heaven on earth.
 
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Gurucam

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Dialm,

The question is what would life on the surface of earth be like, when God's kingdom of heaven is established here? And when would this be fully established here?

Before seeking to discern the characteristics and qualities that will prevail on earth when God's kingdom of heaven is established here, it is necessary to start here:

The Lord recommended:
Matthew 6 KJV N.T.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
The opening question is precisely focused on, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

The above revelation clearly confirms the following 18 things that are relevant to the opening question:

1. Humans who are children of God, are instructed (by the Lord Jesus) to prayer to their Father who is in heaven. Only children of God can pray to "God, our Father who rules heaven and is in, heaven". All others have to pray to "Satan who rules hell and is in hell".

2. God, our Father is in heaven and He must be reached only in heaven.

Those who (when they die) are buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies are in hell. They are not in heaven. They are also with Satan. They are not with God. They have followed Satan. They are the billions who have followed the ideas of Peter. They are not the few, who have embraced the commission which was exemplified by and rendered onto, Paul. They have not followed the Lord Jesus. The Lord Jesus went to heaven in three days after he died and He is in heaven, with God.

3. God, the Father is Father of all humans who are called to issue this prayer. Indeed those issuing this pray must be able to legitimately refer to God, as 'our' Father. Only children of God can authentically call God, 'our' Father. Children of the flesh cannot refer to God, as 'our' Father.

Children of the flesh are also called 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead). The sad fact is that children of the flesh are children of Satan/Peter. The sad fact is that children of the flesh can legitimately pray only as follows: 'our' father, Satan, who in charge of, controls and is also in hell give us our daily bread through the use of your 'half baked' intellectual and purely physically based ideas . . . . .

Indeed, not all people are authorized to call God 'our' Father. Some people (children of the flesh) must call Satan/Peter their father who controls hell. Satan/Peter also bury his charges in hell. The Lord's prayer is for children of God. The Father of children of God is God who is in (spirit) heaven. Therefore not all people are given to issue this prayer.

Only children of God are given to and can issue the Lord's prayer. However false prophets who came in Jesus' name commonly promote that anyone and everyone can issue this prayer. Children of God are the chosen few from among the billions who are called Christians. However every where billions are told, by false prophets, to pray, the Lord's prayer. Fact s if one is not among the chosen few, one is not a child of God. Then one is child of the flesh, among the (not chosen) billions who are simply erroneously called Christians.

Those who issue this prayer without having the necessary status (i.e. those who are not children of God) are simply wasting time (their own time and the time of others). God cannot and do not hear them. They can never succeed and they do not succeed. Then they 'bad mouth' the prayer and give it a bad name.

Billions are 'saying' this prayer in the hope of getting 'their daily bread'. 'Daily bread' means all one's necessary or basic needs, for man does not live by food alone. Look around you, in what passes for Christian churches. The very great majority of those people (billions) are suffering and very far from actually having their 'daily bread'. Also they are very far from the God's kingdom of heaven. Indeed when they die they are buried in the earth (hell) with their dead physical bodies. Some are already in the earth for 2000 odd years.

Children of the flesh cannot (are not given to) utter the Lord's prayer. They are simply not children of God. Therefore they cannot say 'our' Father.

Only children of God can and are given to utter the Lord's prayer. They are children of God. Therefore they can say, 'our' Father.

:idea: We know that among Abraham's descendants there are both children of the flesh and children of God. Abraham demonstrated how people can and will bring forth both types of children. This ought to be investigated for personal edification. It is not linked to baptism or repeating slogans or even to marriage according to and under the law (i.e. the Ten Commandments).

Those who are led into their procreative sex by the law, bring forth only children of the flesh. Those who are led into their procreative sex by the spirit (even if they have to transgress the law) always bring forth children of God.

The very great majority of people who are called Christians (billions) esteem the law in some form or fashion. They are all under the law. They are not under spirit. Fact is children of God are led by the spirit. Therefore these billions cannot be and are not children of God. They are not given to address God as 'our' Father.

Therefore these billions cannot pray the Lord's prayer. These billions do not have a hope for God's kingdom of heaven. They are all destine to buried in the earth (hell) together with their dead physical bodies, when they die. These facts are literally and completely supported by revelations in the KJV N.T. and the actual practice in what passes for Christianity everywhere.

One does not even have to have 'the eyes to see' these facts that are clearly and literally declared in the KJV N.T. Also the law and not the spirit is clearly esteemed, promoted and practiced by billions who are erroneously called Christians. Yet their leaders misguide them by telling them that they are all children of God. Also they do not follow the Lord Jesus in the regeneration and so rise to heaven in three days after their death on earth. Instead they are buried in the earth (hell) together with their dead physical bodies, when they die.

4. the Father's (God's) will is already being done in 'heaven'.

5. the Father's (God's) will will eventually be done on earth, as it is done in heaven.

6. therefore there is a 'heaven' existing already some where other than earth.

7. heaven is a 'place' where God's will is always done, absolutely and perfectly.

8. eventually God' will will be done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly.

9. when God's will eventually becomes done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly, the surface of earth will also be a heaven. Then there will be two heavens. One physical and on the surface of earth. The other spiritual/quantum in the spirit or quantum realm.

Understanding how God's will is done in the spirit ream, so as to create and sustain heaven there is important. This will enable one to understand how God's will can be done on earth, so as to create heaven here. This leads to the answer to the opening question on this post.

10. by issuing this prayer, humans who are children of God, are acknowledging that it is the intent of their Father (God) to have His will done on earth as it is done in heaven.

So here we have it again. God wants his will done on earth, as it is done in heaven. Therefore understanding how God's will is done in the spirit ream, so as to create and sustain heaven there is important. This will enable one to understand how God's will can be done on earth, so as to create heaven here.

For starters we know that God is a Spirit. Therefore He is in spirit heaven. Therefore, since God is a Spirit, every where, including in spirit heaven, the will of God has to do with only the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of His (God's) Spirit.

We know that on earth, humans have two bodies. There is a natural body and a spiritual body.

Also we know that being in God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, have only spirit bodies. We know that when the chosen few Christians die on earth, they rise in three days to be like angels in heaven. Therefore these chosen few Christians are in spirit heaven, clad only in their spirit bodies.

In spirit heaven, all beings are similar to God, who is a Spirit. Therefore in spirit heaven, only the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's spirit can be and are known to and addressed by God. This forms the fabric of doing the will of God there.

Additionally there is no physicality in the spirit realm. Therefore no physical ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations can be or are recognized and addressed in the spirit realm. One must come into a physical earth to have these physically based ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations recognized and addressed. Until then for being in the spirit realm, only spiritual things can be and are recognized and addressed.

This gives us a clear idea of God's focus in His kingdom of heaven in the spirit reality where the chosen few Christians are like angels in that heaven. Let us count this as one important consideration with respect to answering the opening question.

11. by issuing this prayer, humans who are children of God, are acknowledging that the kingdom of heaven that exist in the spirit realm and the kingdom of heaven that is to be established on earth, both belong to God, their Father. These are His kingdom.

For the past 2000 odd years, God did not rule on earth and His kingdom of heaven was not on earth. Earth was ruled by Satan/Peter and their kind and hell was on earth. This has changed recently. Now earth is under the rule of Paul and his kind. Before our eyes, the Old (Peter/Satan and their kind) is dissolving and dyeing to give way to the New (Paul/Christ and their kind).

12. as at 2000 odd years ago, God's kingdom exists of heaven in the spirit realm.

13. as at 2000 odd years ago, God's kingdom of heaven is not on earth.

14. God's kingdom of heaven will definitely come to earth.

15. by issuing this prayer, humans are acknowledging that our Father, God has and hold all power over these two heavens.

16. by issuing this prayer, humans are acknowledging that only our Father, God (not even the Lord Jesus) can be glorified for these two heavens, at all times, since eternity.

17. eventually God' will will be done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly.

18. God, the Father is the Father of those who must issue that prayer. God the Father is not only the Father of the Lord Jesus.

However when the Lord Jesus was on earth, among those people, he was the only begotten son of God. It seems therefore one must become a child of God in order to issue that prayer. And indeed the Lord laid down the path through which one can become an adopted child of God.

The Lord also confirmed that among Abraham's descendants, there will be both, children of the fleash and children of God. Additionally the Lord indicated that many would be called to be (adopted) children of God but few will be chosen.

Children of the flesh are not children of God. God is Father of only children of God. Therefore God, the Father is not the Father of children of the flesh. Satan/Peter is 'the father' of children of the flesh.

Since only a few are chosen, especially from among Abraham's descendants, God, the Father cannot be and is not, the Father of the great majority of Abraham's descendants.

God, the Father is the Father of only a few (the chosen few) of Abraham's descendants. And only these chosen few can pray this prayer for only they can authentically address God, the Father, as 'our' Father.

We know from other revelation in the KJV N.T. that:
- Our Father who is in heaven is God.
- God the Father is also Father of the Lord Jesus.


The above must form some of the basis for discerning the characteristics and qualities that will prevail on earth when God's kingdom of heaven is established here.

What is your view, Dialm?
 
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dialm

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In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.
 

Gurucam

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In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.

Where did you get the idea that one person can pray for another?

That is not a Christian concept.

That is not supported by any revelation in the KJV N.T.

That is the teachings of false prophets who have been and continue ti misled the very great majority of the billions called to Christianity.

There is only one path through which a human can achieve communion or connection with God. It is only through this pathway that God can hear one and one can hear God.

No one come onto God but through the Lord Jesus. This means that each person must come onto God only by going personally, through the Lord Jesus. This is through the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus.

The most significant thing about the Christian pathway is that it has absolute no provision for one person praying for another. Each person is on his own and must achieve his own individual communion with the Spirit of Lord Jesus in order to be heard by or reach God. To tell you or promote, any thing different, is to serve the Antichrist/Satan and to also seriously and terminally misled you.

The basis of Christianity is that each person must (through his own spirit) have his own connection with God (who is the Holy Spirit) through only the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Not through another person.

They can be no divine help for any one who does not have the above individual and personalized intuitive communion or connection. However 'too late is the cry' for the very great majority. Many who have not seek out and achieve this communion during their vibrant years find out that they are not known or supported by God when it is too late. That is when they are too feeble and in desperate need.

People praying for people, is foolishness with God. That is people simply fooling each other. In fact that is even more seriously wrong. When a person pray for another person, he is attempting to make intercession with God on behalf of that person. This is Antichrist/Satanic. Jesus left very clear instruction as follows.

No one come onto God but through the Lord Jesus. This means that each person must come onto God only by going personally, through the Lord Jesus.

To promote and practice 'praying for someone' is Antichrist and Satanic. It help nothing. The most that anyone can do is show one or introduce one to: the path through which one can achieve communion with the Lord Jesus.

In Christianity no human can (or is given to) come between another person and God.

No human can (or is given to) intercede between another person and God.

No human can (or is given to) pray for another person and God.

To pray for another person is to deny, persecute, blaspheme and crucify the Lord Jesus.

At any event those who 'pray' for others are generally people who misled by false prophets and are themselves without Grace of God.
 

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Satan would sift Peter. But Christ did pray the Father.

You must give up your quest for secret electricity. Instead come my way. I'm marching to Zion. The Master has laid out the path. We will be successful.
 

Gurucam

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Satan would sift Peter. But Christ did pray the Father.

You must give up your quest for secret electricity. Instead come my way. I'm marching to Zion. The Master has laid out the path. We will be successful.
In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.
It is quite simple:

If you quote, where, in the KJV N.T., the instruction is: "Gurucam pray for dialm" (or a related instruction) I will oblige. If you can't then clearly you are misled and trying to misled me.

Fact is no one come onto to God but through the Lord Jesus. This is through a direct individualized connection between one own spirit and the Spirit, 'not seen' eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. The kingdom of God is within. It is there you will find both Jesus and God, at this time.

Reaching God is certainly not through another human on earth. Also this is certainly not through Peter & Co.

The Lord Jesus rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body and left His Christian church in the 'hand' of His 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Spirit. This Spirit must be discerned and communed with through one's own heart or spirit. That is this Spirit must be discerned and communed with "within"

God is reached in His kingdom, which is within the individual heart or spirit of each person. And one must go through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus within one's own heart or spirit to reach and communion with, God.

One should wake up to this fact and embrace this fact, before too late is the cry.

Don't you realize that by denying the above you are denying, persecuting, blaspheming, torturing and crucifying the Lord Jesus, perpetually and all over again and again.

No one can find or reach God in pray groups or through pray groups. Abandon that foolishness. Foolishness with God is misleading the very great majority (billions) of those called to Christianity into err and to be not chosen.

Help the masses onto Truth, do not drag them down with Antichrist/Satanic ideas.

You said and I quote: "In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?"

I am asking you to show me, in the KJV N.T., where Christians were instructed (or allowed) to pray for others. . . . please edify me.


The instruction is: search your heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of Truth has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do. There is nothing to indicate that a Christian can initiate anything out of his own volition. A Christian is simply obediently led into all his prays and his actions by the Spirit. A Christians is not given by God to know who he can and should pray for.

Fact is billions who are falsely called Christians are paying for Satan and Satan's children, simply because they do not know for who they should pray. The Lord's instruction is very clear. The Lord confirmed that: 'because of one's infirmities, one would not know what to pay for etc.' Why would you pray for things out of your own volition and advise others to do so and then claim to regard and honor the Lord Jesus?
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Do you recognize the above revelation or do you simply deny, persecute, blaspheme and throw that revelation out the 'window'?

And indeed where did you get this 'secret electricity' thing? Are you making that up?

There is nothing secret or sinister about electricity. There is electricity and an accompanying magnetic field which is infused with electricity. This field is connecting every where and every thing in the creation. The magnetic field is one of attraction. It is like a grid. There is also an electron-magnetic field which arises and can be sustained anywhere and every where in the creation. Electricity, magnetism and electromagnetism, have always existed. The existence and use of these were know to spiritually aware humans, including children of God (i.e. authentic Christians) from the beginning of time and all through time. This filed is used only by humans who have transcended their sub-conscious mind and operates through their expanded and unbounded minds.

Peter & Co. are 'johnny come lately' to know about this field. However they cannot actually function in or use this field. To late will be their cry. There are many people on earth and in the spirit heaven realm. These people are 'light years' more advance than Peter & Co. and their followers, in this field. All Peter's deceased charades are in the earth, in hell. Peter & Co. are the dead who buried their dead. Peter & Co. have no one in spirit heaven. All their deceased charges are spiritually dead and in the earth in hell.

The large following which Peter & Co. have is through conditioning. These follower are stuck in their sub-conscious mind. They are conditioned with the ideas of Peter & Co. This approach operated like the law. This has absolutely nothing to do with electricity and the accompanying magnetic field which is infused with electricity. The thing of Peter & Co. (i.e. their means of holding/possessing their followings) is 'dead people thing' for spiritually dead people. It is based on conditioning the fear based sub-conscious minds of their charges. This is for those who bury their dead in the earth with their dead physical bodies

Electricity and the accompanying magnetic field is for spiritually aware people. This has nothing to do with one's sub-conscious mind. This is recognized and used only through one expanded and unbounded mind which is spirit and Truth based. This is for those who rise in three days after death, to be like angels in heaven. Do not be confusing and/or fooling your self.

Only the chosen few followed the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven, in three days, after they died. They followed the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus. Only they are Christians and differed in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all). These Christians, who are in heaven, are competent in the use of this field. However the Lord Jesus and these chosen few Christians who are in heaven, are enemies of Peter & Co.

The commission of the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus was rendered onto Peter & Co. This is the commission for the spiritually dead. This is the commission of the dead who will bury their dead.

The commission of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus was rendered onto only Paul. This commission is totally different from the commission that was rendered onto Peter. This (Paul's commission) is the Lord Jesus' Christian tradition. This is the commission for spiritually aware people who become Christians in their current life time. These people differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is lord of all). When these people (who are the only actual Christians) die on earth they can and do follow the Lord Jesus (in three days) to spirit heaven. That is, when they die they rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like angels in heaven. When Peter's people dies they are buried in the earth (hell) with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely.

Peter & Co. and their charges have consistently and deliberately denied, persecuted, blasphemed and relegated the Spirit existence or side of the Lord Jesus and this is not forgivable at any place or time. The Spirit existence or side of the Lord Jesus is, the Lord Jesus clad in only His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. Where as one might blaspheme the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and be forgiven. In His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body format, the Lord is entailed to all things due to the Holy Ghost. And denial, persecution and blasphemy of the Lord in this Spirit only format is not forgivable at any place or time.

Apart from the electric and magnetic field, there is another filed which connects every where and every thing in the creation. This field is more subtle and more powerful than the electricity and the magnetic field. It is also a grid. This field is called consciousness.
 
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dialm

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My LORD said unto my Lord, sit down on my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Give up on your angle friend Gurucam.
 

Gurucam

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My LORD said unto my Lord, sit down on my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Give up on your angle friend Gurucam.
In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

You are making false accusations. I have and hold no angle. I simply quote the KJV N.T. as is.

You have an O.T. angle which you are bringing to the N.T. Christian tradition. Are you denying this obvious fact?

It is clearly confirmed that a Christian, cannot in a any way, choose to offer pray according to one's own judgment.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Christians were warned about the like of you:
Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are [size=+2]led[/size] by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
You are called to show the err in the above revelations.

The Spirit makes intercession only according to groanings (within each person's heart) which cannot be uttered. The instruction is simply to let go and let God. One must stay quiet and let the spirit decide. You cannot and do not decides with who the Spirit with intercede with God on your behalf. The Spirit simply read your heart and intercedes with God with certain things in your heart. There is no prays.

Then your job is to simply discern, precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for you. Then be simply led into your works by only that.

The Lord never decided what he would pray for or do. On that one rear occasion, Jesus utter his prays as follows:
Luke: 22 KJV N.T.
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
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This was the one exception, not the rule and it was no absolute request. It was a qualified request. Also, at any event, God, the Father did not in any way entertain Jesus' request. It simply does not work that way. You quoted the Lord Jesus as praying to the Father for deliverance from a single, torturous, physically painful, serious and solitary (death) request. However the fact is Jesus (an ideal human) was ignore by God, the Father. Did you not get the message?

Fact is the Lord probably issued that prayer to demonstrate that pray request of that kind is not entertained by God, the Father. It seems that one must have 'the ears to hear' and 'the eyes to see' that fact.

At least it should occur to you that the Lord Jesus came among those people with a very clear and very preordained agenda which prays could not and cannot change. This must be true for all people who becomes Christians. Christians cannot simply up and pray for something or some one. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus addresses and facilitates only things that are long preexisting in one's spirit. Jesus' prayer experience confirms this fact.

The Lord Jesus could not change his preordained mission or preordained direction, with a prayer request. He had to be denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and murdered and that was that. This was the fact of the matter. This is the typical Christian way. This is the way of all children of God. They are not all called to serve Jesus' agenda. However they are all called to serve their spirits according to the Holy Spirit. Indication in the KJV N.T. is that it is all preordained.

Additionally you are not open to revelations in the KJV N.T.

You are clearly committed to, conditioned by and taken in with, your own Lord Peter & Co. Jesus sought to tell you that Peter cannot help anyone into heaven. Fact is, Peter's commission is confirmed in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5. This is backed up by the fact that the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that Peter was Satan. This is also confirmed by the 2000 odd years practice of Peter & Co. in which they deliver all their dead charges into the depths of earth which is hell, together with their dead physical bodies, to be with Satan indefinitely. Time to wake up and smell the aroma of Truth.

Clearly you are no fan of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Clearly you are no fan of becoming an authentic Christian who differed in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all). Therefore you are no fan of rising in three days,after your death, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like an angel in heaven.

I must ask: Did you come to engage my post as a spy so as to return me to bondage under your differing ideas and beliefs? Was this your agenda?

. . . . I am simply asking the question which must be asked.

Fact is, only those people who plan to be and will be buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies, ever seek to pray for some one else. They are the (spiritually) dead who has no clue of the Spirit way. Generally they are the most unfortunate and cannot help themselves but they believe that they can pray for some one else. This is their very sad predicament.
 
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Gurucam

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Dialm,

The aim must be to connect aspiring Christians with the correct path to Christianity, as clearly confirmed, literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

It is also to bring aspiring Christians into accurate knowledge of the mechanics of Christianity, also as clearly confirmed literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

Christianity is anchored on the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is also linked to rising in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven, when one dies. This is the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

Christianity is not linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. Also Christianity is not linked to being buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body when on dies, to wait indefinitely. Peter's commission is linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and also linked to the ideal of the dead burying their dead. This is the commission for the dead.

'The dead' means spiritually dead. They are 'children of the flesh'. They are under the law and canons etc. These are their school master until they come onto spiritual awareness and Christ.

Christians are not children of the flesh. Christians are children of God. They are led by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Also the KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are not under righteousness of God that is with the law. The KJV N.T, confirms that hell is the inevitable destination for those under the law. All who are under the law fall short of the glory of God. This is the curse of the law . . . a confirmed destination in hell. What so ever the law says, it say only to those who are under the law. It is not like one must be under the law, which is certain doom.

The Lord Jesus has made righteousness of God that is without the law, available. This is through His Spirit. For the past 2000 odd years, this option existed. However only a few, the chosen few, embraced this guaranteed sinless option.

The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are under righteousness of God that is without the law. This does not mean that these people will be forgiven when they transgress the law. This means that sin has no dominion over these people. It means that they are not under the law. It means that the law does not exist for them. That is, when they transgress the law no sin is incurred. They get no sin therefore forgiveness of sin does not apply. This is because they are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are Christians. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that all revelations in the KJV N.T. must be separated into two sections. One is for 'the dead who bury their dead' and the other is for 'those who follow the Lord Jesus'.

No Maths is required to determine that the Lord rose to heaven in three days and therefore this is how one must follow the Lord.

Clearly being buried in the earth, with Satan, together with one's physical body, to wait indefinitely is how the dead bury their dead. This cannot be and is not how one follows the Lord Jesus (in the regeneration).

Are you not interested in getting it right? Are you interested in recognizing, confirming and promoting truth as it appears literally and clearly in the KJV N.T.?

Your aim seems to be, to some how undermine my posts (which are literal revelations in the KJV N.T. You seem to want to continue to hold and comfortably promote your familiar ideas as Christianity . . . when in fact they are not Christian ideas at all. Don't you fear the wrath of the Lord Jesus and God?

Can't you take an ego-less look at the revelations in the KJV N.T.? Can't you transcend all your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity and so take a fresh 'ego-less' look at the KJV N.T.?

Why would you want to be taken down by your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity? Why would you want to 'go down' with your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity.
 
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JonahofAkron

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Dialm,

The aim must be to connect aspiring Christians with the correct path to Christianity, as clearly confirmed, literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

It is also to bring aspiring Christians into accurate knowledge of the mechanics of Christianity, also as clearly confirmed literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

Christianity is anchored on the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is also linked to rising in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven, when one dies. This is the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

Christianity is not linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. Also Christianity is not linked to being buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body when on dies, to wait indefinitely. Peter's commission is linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and also linked to the ideal of the dead burying their dead. This is the commission for the dead.

'The dead' means spiritually dead. They are 'children of the flesh'. They are under the law and canons etc. These are their school master until they come onto spiritual awareness and Christ.

Christians are not children of the flesh. Christians are children of God. They are led by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Also the KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are not under righteousness of God that is with the law. The KJV N.T, confirms that hell is the inevitable destination for those under the law. All who are under the law fall short of the glory of God. This is the curse of the law . . . a confirmed destination in hell. What so ever the law says, it say only to those who are under the law. It is not like one must be under the law, which is certain doom.

The Lord Jesus has made righteousness of God that is without the law, available. This is through His Spirit. For the past 2000 odd years, this option existed. However only a few, the chosen few, embraced this guaranteed sinless option.

The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are under righteousness of God that is without the law. This does not mean that these people will be forgiven when they transgress the law. This means that sin has no dominion over these people. It means that they are not under the law. It means that the law does not exist for them. That is, when they transgress the law no sin is incurred. They get no sin therefore forgiveness of sin does not apply. This is because they are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are Christians. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that all revelations in the KJV N.T. must be separated into two sections. One is for 'the dead who bury their dead' and the other is for 'those who follow the Lord Jesus'.

No Maths is required to determine that the Lord rose to heaven in three days and therefore this is how one must follow the Lord.

Clearly being buried in the earth, with Satan, together with one's physical body, to wait indefinitely is how the dead bury their dead. This cannot be and is not how one follows the Lord Jesus (in the regeneration).

Are you not interested in getting it right? Are you interested in recognizing, confirming and promoting truth as it appears literally and clearly in the KJV N.T.?

Your aim seems to be, to some how undermine my posts (which are literal revelations in the KJV N.T. You seem to want to continue to hold and comfortably promote your familiar ideas as Christianity . . . when in fact they are not Christian ideas at all. Don't you fear the wrath of the Lord Jesus and God?

Can't you take an ego-less look at the revelations in the KJV N.T.?

So many things wrong that I don't know where to begin.
 

Gurucam

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So many things wrong that I don't know where to begin.
It is backward masking. Someone is calling on the dark side. A certain calling forth from the pit.

It is not hopeless, unless one seeks to justify and remain in one's Old ways.

Love is the answer. It is all about love.

The world has lost love.

Love has been replaced by ideals and laws (including the law and canons).

Ideals and laws are 'dead people' tools. 'Dead people' are the spiritually dead. Ideals and laws killeth (spiritual awareness). Spiritual 'dead-ness' makes one contained, selfish, self-serving and totally physically centered.

For example, man/woman associations among the spiritually dead is centered naturally and spontaneously only in sex and jumping in bed for sex. However among spiritually aware people their associations are naturally and spontaneously centered on prolong honing of love, emotions and feelings and also prolong expression of love, emotions and feelings.

Traditional Christianity have been trying to impose the latter practice on their charges by forcing abstention from sex until marriage. This is simply cosmetic. Physical sex is the only expression among spiritual dead couples. Their sexual act, whether in or out of marriage will always be purely physical and bring forth only children of the flesh.

The idea is to actualize the spiritually dead to spiritual awareness. Then physical sex will be always done out of an expression of love. Whether or not this is done in or out of marriage, it does not matter. Their sexual procreation will always be an expression of their love and will bring forth only children of God. This is where one need to be. This defines a Christian life style.

Love is the tool of the living. The living describes the spiritually aware. The Spirit/Love giveth life. Love makes one spiritually alive or spiritually aware. Spiritual awareness makes one expanded, expanding, loving, out flowing and all including.

Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws (like the ten commandments etc.) to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from loving freely, openly and fully. Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws (like the ten commandments etc.) to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from expressing your love freely, openly and fully.

This (the above) is not a simple request. It is a request to dismiss and go against all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, in order to obey urging of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within your heart or spirit for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

In essence this is to be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of each person's heart or spirit and 2. the will of God. The will of God is the Holy Spirit. God is Love therefore the will of God are 'urgings of love. Since the Spirit of the Lord Jesus incorporates the will of God, then the above urgings of Love are the essential fabric of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

One who is led into one's actions by urgings of love in the above manner is being led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Such a one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. This is Christianity. Only this is Christianity.

This goes against all prevailing social, moral and religious norm. However, this is the only way to be relevant and survive in, the new spiritual age which now rules the surface of earth. As you may realize that one cannot simply take a decision to do the above and do so. One must be driven uncontrollable, powerfully and confidently to do so.

Indeed that which were glorious during the past 2000 odd years (i.e. prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, including the Ten Commandments) are now done away with in exchange for what is even more glorious (i.e. the Spirit of the Lord Jesus). Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

The very sad fact is that this option (i.e. under the Spirit of the Lord Jesus) was available for the past 2000 odd years but only a few embraced it. The very great majority (billions) who were called to Christianity choose to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell. They all discern 'wisdom' in the law. They therefore esteemed the law. Then they actively undermined the Spirit of the Lord Jesus approach and also actively misinterpreted the KJV N.T. so as to favorably support their choice. They simply and seriously misled themselves whiles blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

To access and embrace righteousness of God that is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus requires a transformation. This is not achieve simply by parroting words without heart or spirit awareness. It is in (spiritual) power or (spiritual) actualization. One must be transformed from being spiritually dead to being spiritual aware.

This (the above) relates to a shifting of mind. One must shift from one's sub-conscious mind to one's expanded and unbounded mind. And retain that shift or awareness. One's sub-conscious mind is anchored on physicality. One's expanded and unbounded mind is anchored in spirit. This shift is the first step. It is called being 'born again'.

Those who esteem ideals and laws are loveless.

Those who delight in laws are the spiritually dead. They are naturally disconnected. They are dead. They are by nature heartless. They also delight in intellectualizing. They use ideals and laws to justify wars, starvation, destruction of the life sustaining aspect of the creation and division in the world. The spiritually dead also use ideals and laws to sustain their loveless marriages.

A spiritually dead person commonly and easily use prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (in conjunction with fear) to keep a spouse locked in marriage with him or her. Then together, in their loveless marriage and loveless procreation, they bring forth only children of the flesh (no children of God).

The spiritually aware are intuits. They are 'hearts' people. They are naturally 'connected'. They are spiritually aware and connected. They delight in love.

On earth, for the past 2000 odd years, intellectualizing (law orientation) has replaced and totally relegated intuiting (love orientation). That defined a totally dark age.

This has changed. Intuiting and love are reclaiming their supreme position.

Survival can be had only individually. By each person returning to the supremacy of love.

Everyone is connected by love.

Ideals and laws oppress love and divide mankind, everywhere. Ideals and laws ruled supreme (over love) more or less every where on earth for the past 2000 odd years. This was the Age of the spiritually dead/intellectual/physicality.

The surface of earth is now in the Age of Intuits/the spiritually aware/love/spirit and Spirit. Those who cannot cope will be out-of-here. The basis of both, spirit and Spirit is Love.

However one cannot simply decide to love. One has to regain one's awareness of love which exists and connect one to everyone else. This is the same as becoming spiritually aware. Spirit is intrinsically love. This also relates to one's expanded and unbounded mind.

Fact is if one can transcend one's subconscious mind, one will rise to one's expanded and unbounded mind. Then one will naturally, spontaneously and actually feel one's love connection to everyone else. One's love will not be containable. This experience is a fundamental dimension of spiritual awareness. Spiritual awareness is awareness of one's own individualized spirit.

Awareness of one's own spirit is a platform. The spirit world open up to one. It is only from this platform that one can advance further into the next step. The next step is to connect with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus (in spirit heaven) through one's own spirit. Then only through this (all spirit based) communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus the following happens: One come to know the Holy Spirit and also one become known to the Holy Spirit.

However becoming spiritually aware must come first. (i.e. 'the dead' must first awaken to his or her own spirit or heart). The spiritually dead must awaken to spiritual awareness. Only then will one awaken to and actually know love.

Then one will actually know what it means to love thy neighbor.

Until one achieves the above transformation 'love thy neighbor' remains simply an intellectual concept in the head of individuals. There is no heart knowing of this ideology. Without heart knowing of 'love thy neighbor', it is totally useless. Love is pure a heart or spirit thing. Love is not a 'head' thing.

It is common in traditional Christianity to attempt to rationalize love motivated behavior. There is no predictable or other behavior related to urging of Love/God. Urging of Love/God respect and uphold no ideal or law. Urging of Love/God opposes and undermine the intellectual wisdom of humans.

It is through urging of love that God makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise. Urgings of love arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within the hearts or spirit of people for very specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation. This renders humans helplessly impervious to the (intellectual) logic of the 'wise'.

The above is how God makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise. This is also how God guides one into relationships and associations which He has approved for one. However only the spiritually aware can access and use this direct guidance guidance of God which is discerned only through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The dead are left hopelessly, under the generalized dictates of the law, sin, punishment in hell and canons.

The Spirit of God, as the above urgings of love respect no ideal or law, not even the ten commandments. And certainly not the wisdom of any man. The Spirit of God, as these urgings of Love makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise.
1 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
Truly spiritually aware people can do nothing but simply obey these urgings of love. They are helpless.

God as these urgings of Love enslaves His children. God as Love, 'love ties-up' His children with other specific children of His and certain things and circumstances in His creation. However this enslavement is not like what humans do to other humans. By giving in to this God endorsed 'love' enslavement one enters God's kingdom of heaven, on earth and elsewhere and exist in bliss.

Associations and relationships formed through unconditional obedience to these urgings of love are perfectly conformed to two things. 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's individual heart or spirit and 2. the will of God (which is the Holy Spirit). Therefore these associations and relationships are platforms for the material expression and fulfillment of one's real ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations whiles simultaneously doing precisely what God wills for one. This defines a life in God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Thise spiritually aware people who are also children of God obey these urgings of love unconditionally. This is literally unconditional obedience to God.

If necessary, children of God will walk away from old associations (old marriages and children) into order to form these new love unions. They will do so even if these old ones were originally love unions and urgings of love have now waned. No ideal or law or logic can deny or derail these urgings of love which arose and are sustained in the hearts of spirit of children of God. In this way God's makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise.

It is on the bases of the above that 'love thy neighbor' is possible. . . . . this need more explanation which I can and will provide.

Therefore 'love thy neighbor' is not, at all, relevant or applicable to, the spiritually dead (i.e. one who operates only through 'intellectualizing and his sub-conscious mind).

A spiritually dead person would not have a heart knowing of anything. He would not be aware of love's urging within his heart or spirit. Also he cannot confess the Lord Jesus with his mouth while knowing/believing with his heart.

Abba's songs and music seems magical for awakening love. It awaken one to one's expanded and unbounded mind. (this is my personal experience. I was reluctant to add it here.)

The entire Christian tradition is anchored on spirit and Spirit. The essential fabric of spirit and Spirit is love. 2000 years ago the Lord sought to reintroduce love to those essentially loveless people. The Lord sought to introduce the rule of love over ideals and laws. They denied, persecute, torture, blasphemed and killed him for his effort.

Now the rule of love over ideals and laws cannot be stopped on earth.

You are aware that God is Love. God is simply reclaiming the surface of earth. Adapt or be relegated. One's relevance is not in words. It is in power. One cannot simply say that one will love. One must have the natural power or drive to love.

This natural power or drive to love comes from spiritual awareness.

If a person is not spiritually aware he will discern ideals and laws to be wise and supreme. Then although he cannot experience love's urging, he will always override love's urging (of others) with ideals and laws. He will oppress and rule spiritually aware/loving people with the strong stick of ideals and laws. This is both, anti Christian and anti-God.

Traditional Christianity have been doing this for millenniums. They have been creating and sustaining law based, loveless union among their charges, for millenniums. Nothing works without love. Also in loveless marriages, no children of God are brought forth, only children of the flesh are brought forth. This nonsense will now stop.

Fact is loveless procreative sex is a grave sin. At all events it bring forth only 'children of the flesh'. The aim of the Lord Jesus and God is to have children of God inherit earth without any children of the flesh. This will create and sustain God's kingdom of heaven on earth. The time for this is at hand.

This does not mean that loveless procreative sex will no longer be permitted. It simply means that soon there will be no human on earth capable of having loveless procreative sex. These are spiritually dead people (also called children of the flesh). Also no children of the flesh will be brought forth to the surface of this earth. And those children of the flesh who are already here will be teleported out of here to an already existing parallel earth that is conformed to their ideas, beliefs and way of life.

Loveless procreative sex will continue among children of the flesh on that parallel earth. That parallel earth is spiritually dead and entangled with the ideas of children of the flesh. Currently it is inhabited by children of the flesh. Eventually all children of the flesh will live on that parallel earth. No children of the flesh will be left on this earth. Only children of God would be on this earth.
 
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JonahofAkron

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It is not hopeless, unless one seeks to justify and remain in one's Old ways.

Love is the answer. It is all about love.

The world has lost love.

Love has been replaced by ideals and laws (including the law and canons).

Ideals and laws are 'dead people' tools. 'Dead people' are the spiritually dead. Ideals and laws killeth (spiritual awareness). Spiritual 'dead-ness' makes one contained, selfish, self-serving and totally physically centered.

For example, man/woman associations among the spiritually dead is centered naturally and spontaneously only in sex and jumping in bed for sex. However among spiritually aware people their associations are naturally and spontaneously centered on prolong honing and prolong expression of love, emotions and feelings.

Traditional Christianity have been trying to impose the latter practice on their charges by forcing abstention from sex until marriage. This is simply cosmetic. Physical sex is the only expression among spiritual dead couples. Their sexual act, whether in or out of marriage will always be purely physical and bring forth only children of the flesh.

The idea is to actualize the spiritually dead to spiritual awareness. Then physical sex will be always done out of an expression of love. Whether or not this is done in or out of marriage, it does not matter. Their sexual procreation will always be an expression of their love and will bring forth only children of God. This is where one need to be. This defines a Christian life style.

Love is the tool of the living. The living describes the spiritually aware. The Spirit/Love giveth life. Love makes one spiritually alive or spiritually aware. Spiritual awareness makes one expanded, expanding, loving, out flowing and all including.

Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from loving freely, openly and fully. Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from expressing your love freely, openly and fully.

This (the above) is not a simple request. It is a request to dismiss and go against all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, in order to obey urging of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within your heart or spirit for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

In essence this is to be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. One who is led in this manner has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

This goes against all prevailing social, moral and religious norm. However, this is the only way to be relevant and survive in, the new spiritual age which now rules the surface of earth. As you may realize that one cannot simply take a decision to do the above and do so. One must be driven uncontrollable, powerfully and confidently to do so.

This requires a transformation from being spiritually dead to being spiritual aware. This relates to a shifting of mind. One must shift from one's sub-conscious mind to one's expanded and unbounded mind. And retain that shift or awareness.

Those who esteem ideals and laws are loveless.

Those who delight in laws are the spiritually dead. They are naturally disconnected. They are dead. They are by nature heartless. They also delight in intellectualizing. They use ideals and laws to justify wars, starvation, destruction of the life sustaining aspect of the creation and division in the world. The spiritually dead also use ideals and laws to sustain their loveless marriages.

A spiritually dead person commonly and easily use prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (in conjunction with fear) to keep a spouse locked in marriage with him or her. Then together, in their loveless marriage and loveless procreation, they bring forth only children of the flesh (no children of God).

The spiritually aware are intuits. They are 'hearts' people. They are naturally 'connected'. They are spiritually aware and connected. They delight in love.

On earth, for the past 2000 odd years, intellectualizing (law orientation) has replaced and totally relegated intuiting (love orientation). That defined a totally dark age.

This has changed. Intuiting and love are reclaiming their supreme position.

Survival can be had only individually. By each person returning to the supremacy of love.

Everyone is connected by love.

Ideals and laws oppress love and divided mankind, everywhere.

However one cannot simply decide to love. One as to regain one's awareness of love which exists and connect one to everyone else.

Fact is if one can transcend one's subconscious mind, one will rise to one's expanded and unbounded mind. Then one will naturally, spontaneously and actually feel one's love connection to everyone else. One's love will not be containable.

Then one will actually know what it means to love thy neighbor.

Abba's songs and music seems magical for awakening love. It awaken one to one's expanded and unbounded mind. (this is my personal experience. I was reluctant to add it here.)

The entire Christian tradition is anchored on spirit and Spirit. The essential fabric of spirit and Spirit is love. 2000 years ago the Lord sought to reintroduce love to those essentially loveless people. The Lord sought to introduce the rule of love over ideals and laws. They denied, persecute, torture, blasphemed and killed him for his effort.

Now the rule of love over ideals and laws cannot be stopped on earth.

You are aware that God is Love. God is simply reclaiming the surface of earth. Adapt or be relegated. One's relevance is not in words. It is in power. One cannot simply say that one will love. One must have the natural power or drive to love.

This natural power or drive to love comes from spiritual awareness.

If a person is not spiritually aware he will discern ideals and laws to be wise and supreme. Then although he cannot experience love's urging, he will always override love's urging (of others) with ideals and laws. He will oppress and rule spiritually aware/loving people with the strong stick of ideals and laws. This is both, anti Christian and anti-God.

Traditional Christianity have been doing this for millenniums. They have been creating and sustaining law based, loveless union among their charges, for millenniums. Nothing works without love. Also in loveless marriages, no children of God are brought forth, only children of the flesh are brought forth. This nonsense will now stop.

You fit right in with the new age gurus..... Is that where you got your name?
 

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I have read your horoscope Gurucam. It says

"You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.
 

Gurucam

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You fit right in with the new age gurus..... Is that where you got your name?

'New Age' or not. You have to face the following Christian Truth and make a public confession and explaination:

The Lord Jesus instructed a disciple (i.e. one who was chosen to be Christian), 'let the dead bury their dead but you follow me'.

The question is have you been burying your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates in the earth with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely?

This mean that your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates were buried by their dead counterparts. This would make you the dead who is burying his dead. Do you do this thing? "Why do you do this thing?"

Under that approach which you seem to have loyally served, all your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates are in hell with Satan. None are in heaven. None are in heaven with the Lord Jesus and God.

This would also mean that your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates did not follow the Lord Jesus. That is, when they died on earth, they did not rise in three day, like the Lord Jesus, to like angels in heaven.

There is only one way to follow the Lord Jesus. He rose to heaven, in three days, clad only in His Spirit body. Clearly that is not in any way about, being buried in the earth, which is hell, with Satan.

You cannot afford to knock the 'New Age' movement. Clearly you would be far better off joining the New Age' movement. Indeed anything would be better than what you are doing to your own family members, relatives, friends and associates.

You have sent your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates to Satan in hell. Under that system some unfortunate people have spent only 40 or so years on earth but are in the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan, for 2000 odd years, so far. None are in heaven.

Are you not even willing to consider that you were totally fooled (i.e. outsmarted) by Satan? How can you continue to be confident in your own judgment? Can you be trusted with your own innocent or other children.

Have you been totally careless? Did you not read the KJV N.T. yourself. Did you simply let people fool you? Did people simply tell you what they like and you were simply led to do what they led you to do. Satan is cunning. However he did not have to be cunning for the likes of you.

What account can you give of yourself?

Is this the tradition into which you are inviting people? Is this the tradition which you esteem, promote and practice?

If the above is your way, then clearly you are a very serious danger to anyone who take you seriously in the slightest way. Hope that you are not passing out your teaching as Christianity.

Traditional Christians arrogantly look down at so many things (including the 'New Age' movement) while arrogantly verbalizing what appeared to be an air of superiority. However they are arrogantly stuck in an Antichrist/Satanic practice that is probably the worse approach to dealing with their spiritually dead selves. They were simply reveling in their Satanic/spiritually dead selves.

Fact is arrogance was and continue to be, their curse. They arrogantly perceives that they 'know'. Fact is all they know is Satan and the path to hell and Satan. Indeed this is where they have been consistently sending their dead family members, relatives, friends and associates, for the past 2000 odd years . . . under the erroneous belief that they are following the Lord Jesus.

For the past 2000 years, under their own volition, they were totally ruled by their own arrogance. They were simply blind, 'know it all' and arrogant people. No one could reach them with truth. They were the faithless, 'what you 'see' is what there is', people. They did not have the capacity to look to things that were 'not seen' and eternal.

No one could get pass their arrogance to awaken them to their grave and seriously 'terminal' folly. Now, from among traditional Christians a few are humbling themselves. These few are listening and awakening to truth. These few are the meek (from among those billions) who will inherit earth. These few are 'the last who will be first' into God's kingdom of heaven. Billions still remain misled and lost and destine to be sent into the depths of earth which is hell with Satan.

 
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Gurucam

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I have read your horoscope Gurucam. It says

"You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.

Instead of the above, can you attempt to 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.? Please 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.

1. The Lord knew for sure, as far back as 2000 odd years ago that, many will be called and few chosen.

2. Back then He also confirmed that, many false prophets will come and mislead many.

3. Back then He also confirmed that, people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God.

4. Back then He also confirmed that, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Why would you entertain a horoscope reading (or any idea) that accuses me of saying "You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

Clearly that is not true. I did not originate that statement. I am not saying that the path is straight and narrow and few will find it. Fact is the KJV N.T. records that as Jesus' forecast. I am simply presenting that as a Christian truth. Clearly you know this fact. You seem to be turning to 'false witnessing', in desperation???

Seems that you do not like that forecast/statement which was totally made by the Lord Jesus. And indeed you are reluctant to condemn and/or deny the Lord Jesus. So instead you ascribe that statement/forecast to me. And then you can condemn and deny that forecast/statement to you own satisfaction.

Fact is, that forecast/statement is not even Jesus' doing. That is simply the way the Lord foresaw it unfolding. Fact is people themselves create their own destiny. What a man sow that shall he reap. Billions choose a path that is contrary to the teachings of the Lord Jesus yet call themselves Christians. How can that be right? Isn't that blasphemy all on its own?

Great multitudes (billions) seem to not like what the Lord taught, so they modified it to suit their taste. Or they fiercely and arrogantly accepted (and practiced) a modification which some other person provided. However they still called themselves Christians. How is that possible? How is that correct? They cannot be Christians. They have abandon the Lord and gone about their own righteousness. The Lord Jesus cannot benefit them anything. Clearly they are on their own. The Lord Jesus would not know them. Therefore He cannot confess them to God.

One would hope that those who gave these great multitudes of people the modifications (the variation of the Lord's teachings) can save and deliver them.

If you are among those who modified the teachings and prophesies of the Lord Jesus and promote your modification, then it would be necessary for your charges to come onto God through you. You have made yourself Lord and master of your charges. Clearly they would not be able to come onto God, through the Lord Jesus. You have taken a responsibility which you must provide or . . .

Clearly you do not like the above forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. 1. to 4. above). And you have abandon them in favor of: something more 'pampering' and 'kind' including something more to your liking, to your own 'wisdom' and to your obvious arrogant bias toward your own 'wisdom'. Clearly you have come up with your own righteousness.

Clearly you have come up with and you are teaching, your own thing. You have made your self Lord Dialm and that is probably O.K. provided that a.) you do not promote your own ideas, as Christianity and b.) you can save and deliver your charges.

Indeed it is possible that you and your own teachings can save people. I would not venture to judge you on that. However your teachings would not be according to the teachings of the Lord Jesus. And your teachings would not be the Christian way. For indeed Christianity is founded on "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" and anyone who contradict this statement are liars and possibly thieves. Christianity is also founded on those other forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. nos. 1. to 3. above).

If you claim your own made-up ideas to be Christianity, then you cannot be a savior in your own right, you would be a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

Clearly it would be better for you to distance yourself from Christianity and then do your thing on your own strength and own name. Indeed maybe people can come onto God through you.

What indeed is the purpose of teaching people foolishness simply to give people a temporary and very short lived false sense of hope, security and comfort . . . when compare to the long term doom and hell that will befalls them when they following that foolishness?

Please explain the sense (if there is any) in what you are doing?
 
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dialm

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Can you not attempt to 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.? Please 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.

1. The Lord knew for sure, as far back as 2000 odd years ago that many will be called and few chosen.

2. Back then he also confirmed that many false prophets will come and mislead many.

3. Back then he also confirmed that people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God.

4. Back then he also confirmed that strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Why would you entertain a horoscope reading that accuses me of saying "You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

Clearly that is not true. I am not saying that the path is straight and narrow and few will find it, the KJV N.T. records that as Jesus' forecast. I am simply presenting that as a Christian truth.

Also that is not even Jesus doing. That is simply the way he saw it unfolding. Fact is people themselves create their own destiny. What a man sow that shall he reap. Billions choose a path that is contrary to the teachings of the Lord Jesus yet call themselves Christians. How can that be right? Isn't that blasphemy all on its own?

Great multitudes (billions) seem to not like what the Lord taught, so they modified it to suit their taste. Or they fiercely accepted the modification which other provided. However they still called themselves Christians. How is that possible? How is that correct? They cannot be Christians. They have abandon the Lord and gone about their own righteousness. The Lord Jesus cannot benefit them anything. Clearly they are on their own. The Lord Jesus would not know them. Therefore He cannot confess them to God.

One would hope that those who gave these great multitudes of people the modifications (the variation of the Lord's teachings) can save and deliver them.

If you are among those who modified the teachings and prophesies of the Lord Jesus and promote your modification, then it would be necessary for your charges to come onto God through you. You have made yourself Lord and master of your charges. Clearly they would not be able to come onto God, through the Lord Jesus.

Clearly you do not like the above forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. 1. to 4. above). And you have abandon them in favor of something more 'pampering' and 'kind'. Clearly you have come up with and teaching, your own thing. You have made your self Lord Dialm and that is probably O.K. provided you do not promote your own ideas, as Christianity.

Indeed it is possible that you and your own teachings can save people. I would not venture to judge you on that. However your teachings would not be according to the teachings of the Lord Jesus. And your teachings would not be the Christian way. For indeed Christianity is founded on "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" and anyone who contradict this statement are liars and possibly thieves. Christianity is also founded on those other forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. nos. 1. to 3. above).

If you claim your own made-up ideas to be Christianity, then you cannot be a savior in your own right, you would be a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

Clearly it would be better for you to distance yourself from Christianity and then do your thing on your own strength and own name. Indeed maybe people can come onto God through you.

What indeed is the purpose of teaching people foolishness simply to give them a temporary and very short lived false sense of hope, security and comfort . . . when compare to the long term doom and hell that will befalls them when they following that foolishness?

Please explain the sense (if there is any) in what you are doing?

You are slipping over The Wall Gurucam. I have your foot by the heel but you are bruising my head.
 
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