How safe are vaccines?

marke

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But now the people ending up in the hospital are the unvaccinated. Plus with the Delta variant people that have it can pass it on to the vaccinated. Although the vaccinated if they get the Delta variant will hopefully not experience the extreme symptoms.
Don't listen to the secular, government-approved, pharmaceutical company-endorsed covid vaccine narratives. They have been found to omit key data, cover up unwanted negative results, and promote effectiveness numbers nobody can verify.
 

marke

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The measurable rate of effectiveness of covid vaccines has now dropped to below 50%. That is not a good number for democrats when applied to Biden's vaccine mandates.


COVID-19 breakthrough infections are increasing as vaccine effectiveness rates drop below 50% and the winter virus season fast approaches, threatening the vulnerable and promising more workforce disruption amid a nationwide labor shortage. ...

In Minnesota, 5 in 100,000 vaccinated people were hospitalized for COVID-19 at the start of October versus 0.4 per 100,000 around Independence Day. Vaccinated people accounted for roughly 40% of the 483 COVID-19 deaths in the state from early September to early October.
 

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In areas with high vaccination rates, the majority of covid deaths can be found to be among the vaccinated. In areas with lower vaccination rates, we should find that more covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.
The majority of Americans are vaccinated, but the majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among the minority who are unvaccinated. You're a moron.
 

marke

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The majority of Americans are vaccinated, but the majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among the minority who are unvaccinated. You're a moron.
You are wrong. You obviously need to update your understanding to meet new data that has changed as more people have become vaccinated. Now a huge number of hospitalizations and deaths from covid are among the vaccinated.
 

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You are wrong. You obviously need to update your understanding to meet new data that has changed as more people have become vaccinated. Now a huge number of hospitalizations and deaths from covid are among the vaccinated.
Oh really? Post the numbers for us then.
 

marke

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I just posted the numbers above but you do not seem to be comprehending them.
I see. Conflicting reports and non-matching numbers. We have come to believe we will get that when vaccine salesmen promote a flawed vaccine for monetary gain.
 

marke

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You mean vaccine salesmen like Trump?
No. I mean vaccine salesmen like Fauci, Gates, Biden, and others who have a financial interest in promoting the flawed vaccine and who cover up its flaws in order to sell it to unsuspecting Americans.
 

marke

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Who do you get your covid statistics from?
Multiple sources such as thease:




To list a few.
 

way 2 go

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Who do you get your covid statistics from?

The amount of information about vaccine “breakthrough” cases states and the CDC have provided has decreased over the last several months.

For example, until about a month ago, Oklahoma reported Covid hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated, including by the type of shot they had received.


Now, however, after months of being part of the report, that handy-dandy chart has gone bye-bye.

Why? In its Oct. 19 report, Oklahoma offered this explanation:

At this time, we are currently working on refining the process for identifying breakthrough infections and reinfections. Once we have finalized this process, we will resume providing tables.

Oh. That clears everything up. As Dr. Seuss wrote in One Fish, Two Fish: “Why are they sad and glad and bad? I do not know. Go ask your dad.” Of course, he was writing about cartoon fish.

Then again, why should the state of Oklahoma provide information the CDC won’t? Back at the start of May, the CDC stopped counting Covid infections in vaccinated Americans. The decision destroyed any efforts to track how well the vaccines worked against infection or transmission on the national level.

A fact you might think we’d want to know.

But hey, at least the CDC still provided weekly updates on vaccine breakthroughs that resulted in hospitalization and death across the United States. You could find them at a page called, handily enough:


Don’t bother going there now. You’ll be redirected to another CDC page, this one headlined, “Ensuring Covid-19 Vaccines Work.” In case you have missed the point, the next line is, “Covid-19 Vaccines Work,” beside an illustration of a doctor holding a shield with “VACCINE” emblazoned across it.

Subtle.

The CDC’s last public weekly update came the week of Monday, Oct. 18, with data from that day. At that point, the page showed almost 11,000 deaths and more than 30,000 hospitalizations in vaccinated Americans. Those numbers hung around until Nov. 1, when the page was suddenly eliminated.

Why? Just spitballing here, but maybe it had something to do with the fact that from Oct. 4 to Oct. 18, deaths of vaccinated people jumped more than 4,000 and hospitalizations almost 14,000.

Again - in mid-October, the CDC reported more than 300 deaths and almost 1,000 new hospitalizations a day among vaccinated Americans.

Pandemic of the unvaccinated, anyone?
 

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One of Berenson’s themes is that the mRNA vaccines are badly underperforming outside the clinical trials and are possibly even causing a spike in cases after the first shot. But just this week, CDC researchers studying real-world conditions came to the opposite conclusion: The mRNA vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer are 90 percent effective two weeks after the second dose, in line with the trial data. “COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all eligible persons,” they concluded.

Berenson further argued that many of the perceived benefits of the vaccines are illusory. “It is very hard to distinguish the course of the epidemic this winter in countries that have vaccinated heavily, such as Israel and the UK, and those that have not, such as Canada and Germany,” he wrote.

This is hogwash. In the U.K. and Israel, hospitalizations have fallen by at least 70 percent since mid-January, and they remain low. In Canada, hospitalizations fell by significantly less, and in Germany, the seven-day average of COVID-19 cases has more than doubled since mid-February; its government has debated a new lockdown.

 

marke

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Do they contradict the CDC's numbers and it so, by how much?
Multiple reports from around the world contradict the data posted by the CDC. Perhaps if the CDC would stop trying to harmonize its reports with democrat liars telling lies to cover their own mistakes the organization could be free to be more honest and correct in its own reports.
 

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Multiple reports from around the world contradict the data posted by the CDC. Perhaps if the CDC would stop trying to harmonize its reports with democrat liars telling lies to cover their own mistakes the organization could be free to be more honest and correct in its own reports.
Pick some and post the numbers along with the CDCs numbers and we'll see who's right.
 
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