musterion
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Oh, I see. Your evidence that NN is a dirty leftist scheme comparable to what the Nazis did is that a Democrat likes it. I'm convinced now.
You're a scumbag.
Hillary Endorses Net Neutrality - Federal Control of the Internet and the Taking Do
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You're a scumbag.
musterion
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That escalated quickly.
No. It's what you've always been. I'm just pointing it out.
zoo22
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No, he's not.
I see.
musterion
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And so are you.
Here, fixed that post for you so it reads correctly. If you think these progressive liberal turds are about anything but ending your liberty and seizing wealth to themselves just as you blame the the megacorps for, you are the one that is living an insane delusion. America is on the road to serfdom and do-gooder liberals like yourself are to stupid to see the ones that are taking us there...progressive liberals. More government control does not = liberty.
"Innovation, a lot of it, resides in the middle class. Statists always seek to destroy the middle class because it also represents mobility. They want to eliminate that mobility and freeze social strata where they want them frozen. Control is much easier that way. That's why NN and all that will come with it will never affect Facebook, Google, etc, but will destroy nickle and dime net businesses of all kinds."
The American Middle Class is already diminished.
And on the subject of the giant corporations running out small businesses, in the last forty years or so a huge number of small businesses have disappeared and the number of local businesses owned by local people has gone down a great deal.
When I was in high school in a Texas town, I can't remember a local business that was not owned and run by local people. Now, though I haven't been there in a long time, I know of no business in town that is locally owned and run. They even took away the local post office and send mail out by a carrier from San Antonio.
Huge corporations work with big government to control the people. Many locally owned businesses make control over the people much harder for the financial and corporate elites.
The American Middle Class is already diminished.
And on the subject of the giant corporations running out small businesses, in the last forty years or so a huge number of small businesses have disappeared and the number of local businesses owned by local people has gone down a great deal.
When I was in high school in a Texas town, I can't remember a local business that was not owned and run by local people. Now, though I haven't been there in a long time, I know of no business in town that is locally owned and run. They even took away the local post office and send mail out by a carrier from San Antonio.
Huge corporations work with big government to control the people. Many locally owned businesses make control over the people much harder for the financial and corporate elites.
PureX
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No, I actually didn't. But I'm sure I probably did in your alternative make-believe reality, because in that reality, I'm a liberal demon, too.
musterion
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Sure you didn't.
PureX
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Isn't deliberately misrepresenting someone in a negative way akin to lying about them? Isn't the proper word for that, "slander"?
… And they're hiding behind every tree and bush!!! EEEEEE!!! EEEEEEE!!!
The rule of law is essential to individual freedom, justice, and opportunity for all. And that's as true of commercial interaction as it is of any other aspect of human interaction. Lawlessness does not bring freedom. Never has, and it never will.
PureX
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This is all true, but we are supposed to be overseeing "big government", and we are not doing our job. Which is why our government is becoming increasingly corrupt.
Government is not inherently corrupt. It becomes corrupted when the people it's supposed to serve no longer hold their politicians to account for their behavior.
We have the means to do that in this country, and we are not using it, because we are instead buying into the make-believe animosities manufactured by a propagandizing media, by lying politicians, by churches that hold themselves together by holding themselves above and apart from everyone else, and by corporate conglomerates who find us all far more easy to exploit while we're busy blaming each other for it.
The solution is very simple: vote out every incumbent candidate of any party until and unless they begin to actively fight the current wholesale (legalized) bribery of the legislature. Because until we stop this rampant bribery, no other necessary reforms (on behalf of the people) can occur.
Stop buying products and services from large chain outlets, and buy from locally owned business regardless of the slight increase in cost, whenever possible. This will encourage new local businesses to start up, and when they do, support them, too.
Stop buying into the media hype about political and moral battles between citizen types and groups. Ignore them. Insist on viewing your fellow citizens as your compatriots in the war against corporate greed, governmental corruption, media hyperbole, and religious division.
"Stop buying products and services from large chain outlets, and buy from locally owned business regardless of the slight increase in cost, whenever possible. This will encourage new local businesses to start up, and when they do, support them, too."
This would be effective - if only twenty to thirty percent of the people were to wake up enough to stop buying stuff from large corporations and buy more from locally produced farmers and ranchers and from local businesses.
If people don't have control over the counting of the votes, voting is not as effective as ceasing to buy stuff from large corporations. It is true that, for example they can't now get by changing votes to give, Hillary, for example, a win in 2016, when in fact she only gets 30 percent of the vote. But if forty-five percent vote for her, they can more easily get by by changing 5.1 percent of the vote or even more. Who is going to be able to prove five percent of the vote was changed?
This would be effective - if only twenty to thirty percent of the people were to wake up enough to stop buying stuff from large corporations and buy more from locally produced farmers and ranchers and from local businesses.
If people don't have control over the counting of the votes, voting is not as effective as ceasing to buy stuff from large corporations. It is true that, for example they can't now get by changing votes to give, Hillary, for example, a win in 2016, when in fact she only gets 30 percent of the vote. But if forty-five percent vote for her, they can more easily get by by changing 5.1 percent of the vote or even more. Who is going to be able to prove five percent of the vote was changed?
PureX
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This is why we need to be paying more attention to voting regulations and methods. When the states went to electronic voting, they eliminated physical votes. And that's a problem, because when we demand a recount, and the votes are digital, only, whatever cheating was done to the first count will occur on every count. It renders the recount, useless.
And what's worse, is that we farm out the mechanization of electronic voting to private companies, which are not being properly overseen. There is already a strong suspicion that the company handling Ohio's electronic voting machines is biased. And no one is seriously overseeing their equipment and programming at the present time. And I suspect this is true of several other states as well.
Canada refused to change to electronic voting specifically because they wanted to retain the ability to physically recount votes if there were questions or doubts in close elections. And we should have done the same. I think it should have been a Constitutional absolute. But sadly, the American people just don't take their responsibility as citizens seriously enough, and so we ignored this potential problem as we usually do. And instead we just sit on our butts and complain about how the government is so corrupt.
Arthur Brain
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Or rather just acting like an asinine little troll...