ECT Heb 9 vs the "club"

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The proof that RD's comment about all sorts of other covenants is irrelevant is right in Heb 8 itself. v6. That is the only other one Hebrews is talking about when it refers lastly to the eternal covenant, because Christ is eternal.

All talk of a land restoration is therefore not what 'Israel and Judah' meant when viewed from 'in Christ.' Obviously it looks that way from the OT but we are no longer there. We are on this side of Christ 'where all things have been made new.'

The new covenant is once for all, 9:26.
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Interplanner said:
The proof that RD's comment about all sorts of other covenants is irrelevant is right in Heb 8 itself. v6. That is the only other one Hebrews is talking about when it refers lastly to the eternal covenant, because Christ is eternal.

All talk of a land restoration is therefore not what 'Israel and Judah' meant when viewed from 'in Christ.' Obviously it looks that way from the OT but we are no longer there. We are on this side of Christ 'where all things have been made new.'

The new covenant is once for all, 9:26.
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All made up.
 
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Right Divider said:
God says otherwise. I'll stick with God.
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You see? The problem is you think you have complained about commentarians. But you guys are the worst of it. Those lines from Heb 9 are commentary on the prophecy. They offer nothing about the land promise, because it is irrelevant. It is not the 'final proof' of God being true; Christ is.

Where on earth do you get the idea that Christ can do once for all, but you have some other God doing something else? What is the 'plain meaning' of "once for all."? Are you with Hebrews or not? Or is your god the God of Judaism as opposed to Christ as it was at the trial?
 
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Interplanner said:
You see? The problem is you think you have complained about commentarians. But you guys are the worst of it. Those lines from Heb 9 are commentary on the prophecy. They offer nothing about the land promise, because it is irrelevant. It is not the 'final proof' of God being true; Christ is.

Where on earth do you get the idea that Christ can do once for all, but you have some other God doing something else? What is the 'plain meaning' of "once for all."? Are you with Hebrews or not? Or is your god the God of Judaism as opposed to Christ as it was at the trial?
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You are truly commentary crazy!
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Interplanner said:
You see? The problem is you think you have complained about commentarians. But you guys are the worst of it. Those lines from Heb 9 are commentary on the prophecy. They offer nothing about the land promise, because it is irrelevant. It is not the 'final proof' of God being true; Christ is.

Where on earth do you get the idea that Christ can do once for all, but you have some other God doing something else? What is the 'plain meaning' of "once for all."? Are you with Hebrews or not? Or is your god the God of Judaism as opposed to Christ as it was at the trial?
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Hebrews is to, and about, a kingdom of priests who shall inherit the City.
Hebrews does not cancel out other inheritances found in the Holy Bible.
 
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Right Divider said:
In a book named HEBREWS..... got it.
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Yes, the kind that 'were not looking for any place on this earth, for God has prepared a home for them.' ch 11.

The kind that gladly accepted the seizure of their property by zealots for the Great Revolt which was doomed from the start.

Anyway, you'll do anything to avoid what the comments are. They clearly do not know anything about a land promise.
 
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Yes, the kind that 'were not looking for any place on this earth, for God has prepared a home for them.' ch 11.

The kind that gladly accepted the seizure of their property by zealots for the Great Revolt which was doomed from the start.

Anyway, you'll do anything to avoid what the comments are. They clearly do not know anything about a land promise.
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The land promise was a GIVEN.... they didn't need to repeat it.

God does not LIE!
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Yes, the kind that 'were not looking for any place on this earth, for God has prepared a home for them.' ch 11.

The kind that gladly accepted the seizure of their property by zealots for the Great Revolt which was doomed from the start.

Anyway, you'll do anything to avoid what the comments are. They clearly do not know anything about a land promise.
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Hey dummy, none of us are saying Hebrews is about the land.
You're the dumbest smart person I know.
 
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The land promise was a GIVEN.... they didn't need to repeat it.

God does not LIE!
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It is not a lie. And there would have been no need for it. Not to Heb 11 believers dialed into the world to come and the Jerusalem above. It totally does not figure into the new covenant of redemption and justification from sin. There is no 'separate' thing God needs to prove. he does not prove himself that way, say both Rom 3 and 9 on that question (of the 'failed' word of God).

Instead he started the mission to the nations, which you should be busy working in because it is great and exciting.

Dan 9 said, like Christ, it was going to be desolated. And we never hear another episode about the land after that.
 
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