ECT He shall save His people from their sins

[Right Divider]

It says, "He shall save His people from their sins." Matthew 1:21 (KJV)

"His people" is referring to Israel.

That does NOT means that others cannot also be saved from their sins.

 

[DAN P]

Jesus has been saving His people from their sins since the time of Adam who looked with an eye of faith to Him while making the sacrificial offerings. Israel, ie the church, will be spared the plagues of God which will destroy the wicked at the end of the world but this salvation from bodily suffering is not salvation from sin. The prophecy was, "He shall save His people from their sins."

Hi and Rom 11:26 and Ezek 36:24-38 TELLS a different story !!

dan p

 

[Interplanner]

"His people" is referring to Israel.

That does NOT means that others cannot also be saved from their sins.

The NT is not splintered in to groups as such. That's why it is about the same, one salvation of all of them by the same kind of faith.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

The NT is not splintered in to groups as such. That's why it is about the same, one salvation of all of them by the same kind of faith.

Made up.

 

[musterion]

I saw Phenomenal Turmoil open for Existential Angst.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I saw Phenomenal Turmoil open for Existential Angst.

Dude, grunge is so 90s

:guitar:

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

The NT is not splintered in to groups as such. That's why it is about the same, one salvation of all of them by the same kind of faith.

On the contrary, there is a group of believers expecting to have their sins blotted out when the LORD returns, and expecting to inherit a City.

There is also a group of believers looking back to the cross, having been raised with Christ, having their sins already blotted, and already seated with the LORD far above all heavens.

Oil and water do not mix.

 

[musterion]

Dude, grunge is so 90s

:guitar:

But I like flannel!

 

[Right Divider]

The NT is not splintered in to groups as such. That's why it is about the same, one salvation of all of them by the same kind of faith.

You don't even know that the new testament is.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You don't even know that the new testament is.

You mean it isn't Matthew-Revelation? :jawdrop:

 

[musterion]

Didn't he say Christ is the New Covenant?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Didn't he say Christ is the New Covenant?

I believe he did, and also that Christ is the "total fulfillment" of the all of the OT, even Zechariah 5 "this is wickedness".

 

[Right Divider]

Didn't he say Christ is the New Covenant?

Quite a few here do. I think that he is one of them.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

The NT is not splintered in to groups as such. That's why it is about the same, one salvation of all of them by the same kind of faith.

Faith + works unto salvation

vs

Salvation by grace through the faith of Christ



Oil and water.

 

[Nihilo]

"His people" is referring to Israel.

That does NOT means that others cannot also be saved from their sins.

In what way does He save His people Israel from their sins, as compared to the way in which He saves His Body from ours? What's the difference between the saving of the one vs. the saving of the other, from our sins?

 

[Right Divider]

In what way does He save His people Israel from their sins, as compared to the way in which He saves His Body from ours? What's the difference between the saving of the one vs. the saving of the other, from our sins?

That is irrelevant to the meaning of "His people".

Not everything in the Bible is about each individuals sins.

 

[Nihilo]

In what way does He save His people Israel from their sins, as compared to the way in which He saves His Body from ours? What's the difference between the saving of the one vs. the saving of the other, from our sins?

That is irrelevant to the meaning of "His people".

Not everything in the Bible is about each individuals sins.

So does that mean, "There is no difference between how He saves His people Israel from their sins, and how He saves His Body the Church, from ours?"

 

[Right Divider]

So does that mean, "There is no difference between how He saves His people Israel from their sins, and how He saves His Body the Church, from ours?"

It depends on whether you are taking about individuals or the nation.

 

[Nihilo]

It depends on whether you are taking about individuals or the nation.

How does the Lord save from their sins, the following?
a. His people Israel
b. His people the Church, His Body
c. Individual members of His people Israel
d. Individual members of His Body, the Church

 

[God's Truth]

The angel who appeared to Joseph said concerning Jesus, "...thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins," Matthew 1:21. Jesus never made a mistake of converting a soul and leaving it under the power of sin. Those who are converted cease to wilfully sin, ie to break God's commandments since sin is defined as "the transgression of the law" - 1John 3:4. The children of God are not saved by their obedience but rather the obedience is the fruit of their new life. Our fruits are our words and deeds.

Jesus came first for the people who already belonged to God. They were God's and they had to go through Jesus to remain God's.

Jesus told those who belonged to him to remain in him or they could do nothing.

Jesus said that when he is crucified, then ALL can come to him to be saved. That means Gentiles, and even the Jews who were cut off and hardened when Jesus was on the earth.

We must obey and do what Jesus says to be saved.

Jesus saves us all on his own and he tells us exactly what we must do to be chosen by him for salvation.