Happy Birthday Mr. President

[drbrumley]

Let's ask him:

Other prominent Founding Fathers who were members of societies for ending slavery included Richard Bassett, James Madison, James Monroe, Bushrod Washington, Charles Carroll, William Few, John Marshall, Richard Stockton, Zephaniah Swift, and many more.

In fact, based in part on the efforts of these Founders, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts abolished slavery in 1780; Connecticut and Rhode Island did so in 1784; New Hampshire in 1792; Vermont in 1793; New York in 1799; and New Jersey in 1804. Furthermore, the reason that the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa all prohibited slavery was a federal act authored by Rufus King (signer of the Constitution) and signed into law by President George Washington which prohibited slavery in those territories.

It is not surprising that Washington would sign such a law, for it was he who had declared:

“I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it [slavery].”
—George Washington

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-wall/wal-g003.html

Yet he owned slaves......I'm happy he changed his tune but the fact remains he did. And that up till his death. His wife actually is the one who freed them, and that a year later.

So maybe we should ask him again?

 

[drbrumley]

if the british were so anti-slavery, how come they supported the south?

Good point Res, it must have been something else for the British to support the South.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Yet he [George Washington] owned slaves......I'm happy he changed his tune but the fact remains he did. And that up till his death. His wife actually is the one who freed them, and that a year later.

So maybe we should ask him again?

Lets.

Mr. President, what did you put in your will regarding slavery?

...near the end of his life; Washington’s will mandated the freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death, making him the only slaveholding Founder to put provisions for manumission in his will.
http://www.mountvernon.org/slavery

 

[drbrumley]

Lets.

Mr. President, what did you put in your will regarding slavery?

...near the end of his life; Washington’s will mandated the freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death, making him the only slaveholding Founder to put provisions for manumission in his will.
http://www.mountvernon.org/slavery

Very true......and how nice of him. He couldn't free them now could he? He had to will it for his wife to do upon HER death. Such a gentleman.

So, let's ask him again....

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Very true......and how nice of him. He couldn't free them now could he? He had to will it for his wife to do upon HER death. Such a gentleman.

So, let's ask him again....

You didn't do very good job of trashing President Lincoln's reputation, so why not the "Father of Our Country", George Washington? (Sigh, Libertarians, what can ya do with em?).

BTW, I bet you get all teary eyed over the guy who has his own holiday:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94974

(Evidence has it that ole Mike here paid for a lot of hookers. Does that mean he "owned them"?)

 

[drbrumley]

You didn't do very good job of trashing President Lincoln's reputation, so why not the "Father of Our Country", George Washington? (Sigh, Libertarians, what can ya do with em?).

BTW, I bet you get all teary eyed over the guy who has his own holiday:

(Evidence has it that ole Mike here paid for a lot of hookers. Does that mean he "owned them"?)

So you don't want to ask George Washington about slavery again?

 

[drbrumley]

Sigh, Fake conservatives, what can ya do with em?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Sigh, Fake conservatives, what can ya do with em?

Ummm....debate em?

Thanks for participating in the thread Doc, you can let the Jr. Libertarian take over from here (fresh from his RPF indoctrination seminar).

 

[drbrumley]

Ummm....debate em?

Which is what I'm doing.

Thanks for participating in the thread Doc, you can let the Jr. Libertarian take over from here (fresh from his RPF indoctrination seminar).

Oh I see, your tactics don't work with me so you wanna go after CL again to try to get him banned.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

So you don't want to ask George Washington about slavery again?

Nah, I'd rather talk about the adulterous, plagiarist, communist sympathizer who received the first Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood Award.

After all, he did get a holiday in his name.

 

[drbrumley]

Nah, I'd rather talk about the adulterous, plagiarist, communist sympathizer who received the first Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood Award.

After all, he did get a holiday in his name.

Then make a thread about him. Surely you don't want to derail your own thread about Presidents do you?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Oh I see, your tactics don't work with me so you wanna go after CL again to try to get him banned.

And that would be such a waste of your...

investment.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Then make a thread about him. Surely you don't want to derail your own thread about Presidents do you?

Excellent idea. I don't recall if you participated in it.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94974

My bad, you did.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3587414&postcount=13

 

[drbrumley]

Excellent idea. I don't recall if you participated in it.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94974

My bad, you did.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3587414&postcount=13

I thought that was a pretty good post...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I thought that was a pretty good post...

I can see that much thought went into it.

I got to thinking about the things you said about George Washington, and because he was a slave owner, I think we should strip him of the "Father of Our Country" title.

I'm sure that both you and I can agree who he should be replaced with.

He's a guy that voted to allow fags to openly serve in the military, who thinks abortion is a states right issue, who wants all recreational drugs legalized, who is for the continued legalization of pornography, kiddy porn included.

Who else represents the values of modern day America better than...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

On that note Doc:

Have a great Libertarian day

 

[Christian Liberty]

Make your case without a Lewie Rockwell article. You claim that "slavery was on the way out", how so?

Of course you and other Libertarians hate Lincoln because you believe he destroyed "States Rights". Since when does man have a "right" to own another human being?

Our Founding Fathers wrote that "All men are created equal" in one of our founding documents, do the respective states have a right to ignore our founding documents Doc?

Should radical Muslims invade the US to end abortion?

I didn't really talk about the south or state's rights in this thread. I did bring up the tyrannical abuses of power you ignored.

:rotfl: And what great achievements did he accomplish?

Oh come on. Lincoln had a lot of achievements. Lincoln created the modern leviathan State. That must have been a mighty "great" achievement

Your owned by the US government now you doofus.

Not only that, but aCW openly supports it every time he posts.

Quite frankly, aCW is far more disgusting than a slave owner.

 

[resurrected]

As a voluntarist...

there's a lot of potholes in the streets i drive on


would you mind volunteering to fill them in?


kthxbaie :wave2:

 

[drbrumley]

there's a lot of potholes in the streets i drive on


would you mind volunteering to fill them in?


kthxbaie :wave2:

Seems your taxes you pay are not working for you?

 

[Lohmeyer]

Lets.

Mr. President, what did you put in your will regarding slavery?

...near the end of his life; Washington’s will mandated the freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death, making him the only slaveholding Founder to put provisions for manumission in his will.
http://www.mountvernon.org/slavery

Does Washington deserve my respect because he chose to free his slaves after the death of his wife. I'd respect the man who made the choose to release his slaves while he was alive. That anti-slavery mentality ran deep,in the Washington blood line. So much so that Martha Washington made a great impression on her great grandson Robert E.Lee. You know was the great hero of the War of Northern Aggression. Although Lee never owned slaves and regarded it as evil, he was the leader of the army that fought to keep it going.