Green Berets in Negligees

[serpentdove]

Will Green Berets in negligees (Enyart) hurt the morale of our troops?

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced new regulations yesterday on enforcing the law, stating that homosexuals are not eligible to serve in the military. The regulations limit the evidence that will be allowed and requires busy high-ranking officers to handle discharge procedures. The Pentagon's legal counsel stressed that this does not change or place a moratorium on the law.

Concerned Women for America CEO Penny Nance said, "This will create more confusion and fear among military members. Members of the military already fear punishment for agreeing with the federal law that homosexuals in the military 'would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion.' 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' muddled the law by barring asking the key question of those joining the military as to whether or not they are homosexual..." Full Story. New Regs on 'Gays' in Military Will Undercut Morale

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). :vomit:

 

[PlastikBuddha]

The military forces in other nations have managed to survive the outing of the gay men and women in their ranks. Ours will too.

 

[Persephone66]

The military and the people in it are concerned soldiers doing their job, not who they are having sex with.

Just like normal people, they don't care if someone is gay.

 

[PlastikBuddha]

The military and the people in it are concerned soldiers doing their job, not who they are having sex with.

For now...
As soon as "don't ask don't tell" get repealed apparently the military will become a nonstop orgy of gay sex. The only kind of job they will be thinking about will be... never mind...

 

[Persephone66]

For now...
As soon as "don't ask don't tell" get repealed apparently the military will become a nonstop orgy of gay sex. The only kind of job they will be thinking about will be... never mind...

You shouldn't say things like that, the fundies will label it as Truth.

 

[MrRadish]

You shouldn't say things like that, the fundies will label it as Truth.

Or possibly TRUTHtm, if the mood takes them.

 

[Dark Radiance]

Seems like Spartans weren't too shabby militarily, were they?

 

[Nick M]

NATO and the free world falls apart with out Uncle Sam.

And the new rules really change nothing aside from what should already be. How exactly do you prove it. It is by witness. A soldier (or Marine) with integrity will tell the first seargant what is going on. That is when they get the boot. He will walk in on them. Same rules as aduletery. You have to have a witness to prove, unless there is a baby.

 

[Gerald]

NATO and the free world falls apart with out Uncle Sam.

And the new rules really change nothing aside from what should already be. How exactly do you prove it. It is by witness. A soldier (or Marine) with integrity will tell the first seargant what is going on. That is when they get the boot. He will walk in on them. Same rules as aduletery. You have to have a witness to prove, unless there is a baby.

But to be a witness to that sort of foolishness you almost always have to go looking for it.

If it's happening at some time and place that can be accidently stumbled upon, the participants should be hosed for being so stupid as to let themselves get caught.

 

[serpentdove]

The military forces in other nations have managed to survive the outing of the gay men and women in their ranks. Ours will too.

You think men want to be in close quarters with perverts who lust for them? I thought you claimed to be all about freedom? :idunno: What about a man's freedom not to be leered at? :vomit:

You claim to be a Christian--please tell us when you have ever stood for God and his values? Homosexuality is forbidden (Lev. 18:22); Considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24); It should be recriminalized (Lev. 20:13). It is unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1995). Nelson's quick reference topical Bible index. Nelson's Quick reference (293). Nashville, Tenn.: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

"The Christian faith is about selflessness and is marked by holy living (Romans 6:19, 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 1:2, 30, 6:19-20; Ephesians 1:4, 4:24; Colossians 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8, 5:23; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15-16)..." full text: What is lust? What does the Bible have to say about lust? http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-lust.html

 

[serpentdove]

Just like normal people, they don't care if someone is gay.

Normal people consider homosexuality an abomination (1 Ki 14:24).

 

[serpentdove]

never mind...

Jude 18.

"The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice..." full text: What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin? http://www.gotquestions.org/homosexuality-Bible.html

 

[Persephone66]

Normal people consider homosexuality an abomination (1 Ki 14:24).

Have you asked them yourself?

I don't care what your fairy tale book says.

 

[serpentdove]

I don't care what your fairy tale book says.

No kidding.

The make-believers here agree with you by the way. Your opinion is not what constitutes truth. The Bible is our source of truth (Jas 1:18).

 

[PlastikBuddha]

Jude 18.

"The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice..." full text: What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin? http://www.gotquestions.org/homosexuality-Bible.html

That has nothing to do with my post, serpent:duh:.

 

[Dark Radiance]

Actually Serpent, the type of homosexual activity which is described in the Bible is not what would be meant today. Context is a vital part of understanding this issue.

 

[Persephone66]

No kidding.

The make-believers here agree with you by the way. Your opinion is not what constitutes truth. The Bible is our source of truth (Jas 1:18).

Is the part about the talking snake truth? You know the talking snake that convinced a woman that was made from a rib to eat from a magic tree? And some how that's why a cosmic Jewish zombie that claimed to be his own father died and came back to life a few days later?

That's about as much truth as Harry Potter. :thumb:

 

[Newman]

What about a man's freedom not to be leered at? :vomit:

Disgusting as it may be, where is that in the Bill of Rights?

 

[PlastikBuddha]

You think men want to be in close quarters with perverts who lust for them?

What? What makes you think that just because someone is gay they can't control their attractions with the same degree of respect that a man does when he works with a woman he MAY be attracted to? Being gay doesn't make one unprofessional.
:mrt::duh:

I thought you claimed to be all about freedom? :idunno: What about a man's freedom not to be leered at? :vomit:

The gay people are already in the service- they just aren't being honest about who they are. Nothing would change, there is no reason why there would be any more "leering".

You claim to be a Christian

So do you.
:yawn:

--please tell us when you have ever stood for God and his values?

Every day. When do you? Or do you think that lies and hyprocrisy are God's values?

Homosexuality is forbidden (Lev. 18:22); Considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24); It should be recriminalized (Lev. 20:13). It is unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1995). Nelson's quick reference topical Bible index. Nelson's Quick reference (293). Nashville, Tenn.: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

It is not forbidden in America, nor is it classified as an "abomination."

"The Christian faith is about selflessness and is marked by holy living (Romans 6:19, 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 1:2, 30, 6:19-20; Ephesians 1:4, 4:24; Colossians 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8, 5:23; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15-16)..." full text: What is lust? What does the Bible have to say about lust? http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-lust.html

What does that have to do with gays in the military? The army is NOT a Christian organization. It is not run or governed by the Law of Moses. It is secular, it serves and protects this nation regardless of religion. It is made up of men and women from different religions, including those who have no religion.

 

[kmoney]

The gay people are already in the service- they just aren't being honest about who they are. Nothing would change, there is no reason why there would be any more "leering".

There could be more leering if the homosexuals could be open with their sexuality instead of having to hide it.