Try a little bit a Jerry Springer mud slingin - that seems to bring em runnnin :chuckle:
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Try a little bit a Jerry Springer mud slingin - that seems to bring em runnnin :chuckle:
GRACE AMBASSADORS MINISTRY UPDATE
We need preachers and teachers...
because some people depend on them,
until they learn to READ the Bible.
Better to know how to WRITE the Bible...
The Faith of Christ...
Existed BEFORE the Bible...
The FAITHFUL...
WROTE it...
A.
not all of us can be Bible authors and saints Arse -
There are differences in "salvation" as well as "grace".
Noah was "saved" from the flood, but that salvation was not the salvation of eternal life.
And folks received "grace", but not the grace of eternal life.
Jacob was chosen over his twin brother Esau (without any merit on their part). So that was grace, but not grace of eternal life.
Good study, though.
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Then why was Noah still alive in Abe's bosom?
The problem is far more likely to be your faulty understanding of the dispensation given to Paul.The problem is in how Calvknists and mads view the dispensation of the law pj
They are failing to rightly divide the word of truth
Selah
Hmm silence
The different dispensations, madists, all have laws to which the people of God (the saved) are or were commanded to obey. Noah couldn't eat animals before the Noahic covenant. It was not optional for Noah.
Cain could not neglect the blood sacrafice, it was not optional.
David could not eat what Noah could - not optional
Peter could eat what Noah could - optional
Here's the problem pj, the mosaic covenant, the dispensation of law was added to the Abe cov. Why?
To show us the inability to lead a sanctified growing grown up relationship with God due to the pervasiveness of sin in our members.
Also God gave the mosaic law to make an increase of sins (because of the flesh) to lead the believer to conclude that he/she was completely powerless to be a keeper of the 613 commands (not just 10) and thus lead him/her to the Messiah.
Knowing the purposes of the mosaic cov will result in knowing as King David knew, that the believer will always be saved by grace by the mercies of God.
Therefore brother pj, I conclude that in every dispensation the believers were regenerated (born again) by grace thru faith (not in what our new test faith requires) in what God revealed to humanity up to that believers time and in his dispensation. For David his content of faith included the Abe , land and Davidic covs as well as the mosaic law or mosaic cov. This is why David could say blessed is the one who's transgressions are not held against them while at the same time saying that the 613 laws of Moses were his delight and daily meditation
Madists and Calvinists fail to see the obvious truth that the law of Moses, the mosaic dispensation was a curve ball thrown in by God for Gods purpose of augmenting sinful flesh.
Paul reveals this in his writings. To fall from grace means to try and live one's life by the law in order to reach maturity or in order to self sanctify their selves.
That is why they must place 1 Jn 1:9 as written to unbelievers instead of to believers. We confess our daily sins, we get restored daily and we win in the spiritual warfare because the law of Moses is not part of our daily requirements
The laws of Christ which number in the hundreds are our laws today but we have put on Christ. We daily confess and are more than conquerors they Him. The laws of Christ are commandments and not options yet just like the previous dispensation's laws were never a means of salvation or sanctification, the laws of Christ are what the previous dispensation's law were. The rule of life for the already born again, regenerated saved people of God.
Now, pass the sausage
The problem is far more likely to be your faulty understanding of the dispensation given to Paul.