For Those Who Still Insist That There Was Election Fraud

marke

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Oh please. Even Breitbart's headline was

Trump: ‘Republicans Will Not Be Voting’ in Future Elections Unless 2020 Fraud Resolved


Elsewhere, MAGA were in disarray:

Donald Trump supporters baffled and divided over his claim that Republicans won't vote in 2022 or 2024


Doesn't seem like there's any twisting going on or even necessary, when Trump's own supporters read it that way, and argued over whether or not to go along with it.
Nobody has tried to prove democrats did not commit massive voting fraud in 2020.
 

marke

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Well, it's 2023 now and obviously the 2020 election wasn't "solved" to Trump's satisfaction was it? So how do you suppose that's gonna affect 2024?
The question of the legitimacy of the 2020 election will never be resolved as long as there remain millions of ballots that have not or can not be verified as legitimate.
 

marke

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Constantly? Oh, I suppose for you it must seem so but no. Had a fair amount of time away from here and eh, what's it to you anyway? Is this an 'Americans Only Club' where it comes to politics in the US cos it never used to be...

Oh, and for sure in the UK there's been more than enough farces in recent times to address. Difference is there's a pretty unanimous agreement on the score of the cynical kind without the kind of off the scale cult mentality that there is across the pond...
England has its own share of bank-robbing crooks and voting fraud thugs.



https://canadafreepress.com/article...oyee-owns-defective-switch-vote-biden-machine


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Evil That Men Do: Is Defective Software Used on Swing States a Virus Meant to Flip Elections?

UNBELIEVABLE: George Soros Employee Owns Defective Switch-Vote Biden Machines




By Kelly O'Connell ——Bio and Archives--November 12, 2020

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Stunning Facts: Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a George Soros lieutenant, whose company Smartmatic, is intimately tied to Dominion Voting Systems who flipped votes from Trump to Biden. Brown was also named UN #2 – Deputy Secretary General on March 3rd, 2006, and also former VP of the World Bank. His machine was used in all the swing states. Could this help explain the MI 200,000 vote sudden dump of Biden ballots, while WI got 100,000 late night delivery?

How did a close George Soros associate , a Quantum Fund VP, who lived in his NYC apartment get accepted for crucial voting machinery?

Kelly O'Connell's Dominion/Smartmatic Vote Fraud Series : • UNBELIEVABLE: George Soros Employee Owns Defective Switch-Vote Biden MachinesSHOCK: US Vote Machines First Used in Communist State to Throw Election by Subterfuge!Dominion Voting System History: Ballot Fraud From Communist Venezuela? Soros Minion: How did a close George Soros associate , a Quantum Fund VP, who lived in his NYC apartment get accepted for crucial voting machinery? Especially after Soros' unrelenting attack on the US justice system by funding leftist DAs? Brown was concurrently Vice-Chair of Soros Fund Management & Vice-Chair of Open Society Institute. Is Lord Brown George Soros' favorite lieutenant? Agent Provocateur Brown: So, what kind of person is Lord Brown? He secretly advances Soros' goals. An adviser to billionaire Beny Steinmetz, Brown ruthlessly used his position to relay confidential information to Soros about Steinmetz' company to ruin a business deal. Brown was sued and fined €90,000. Brown is also Anti-Brexit and a climate zealot. When criticized about his friendship with Soros, and living on his colossal farm, Brown claimed he was "doing God's work." Failed Vote Software Company: Dominion is associated with vote disasters, "Dominion "got into trouble" with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary is Smartmatic, a company "that has played a significant role in the U.S. market over the last decade," according to a report published by UK-based AccessWire. Litigation over Smartmatic "glitches" alleges they impacted the 2010 and 2013 mid-term elections in the Philippines, raising questions of cheating and fraud. An independent review of the source codes used in the machines found multiple problems." Smartmatic & Dominion Failures: Bloomberg criticized computer voter machines and software as inherently flawed in 2019. CBS News reported in 2019, "The voting machine lobby, led by the biggest company, ES&S, believes they are above the law," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore. They have not had anybody hold them accountable even on the most basic matters." Another concern is foreign ownership, and passive investors – like possibly Soros. Smartmatic's figures were manipulated by 1 million votes in its 2017 Venezuela vote. Dominion failed in 2018 GA, but was retained, and failed again in GA and switched 6,000 ballots in MI this election, while PA, NV, AZ, WI, MN all used this. In 2019, GA citizens petitioned to have Dominion Voting Systems removed, as it failed in 2018 NV.

E-Voting Companies Run by Foreign Sociopaths?

"Elaborate election systems benefit company profit far more than taxpayers & voters paying for them." CONCLUSION: E-Voting Companies Run by Foreign Sociopaths? What do we really know about our voting machines and software? Hardly anything. For example, if a voting program was designed to throw 3% of the ballots to the opponent, how could that be detected? Writes the UK Guardian: "The fact is that democracy in the United States is now largely a secretive and privately-run affair conducted out of the public eye with little oversight. The corporations that run every aspect of American elections, from voter registration to casting and counting votes by machine, are subject to limited state and federal regulation. The companies are privately-owned and closely held, making information about ownership and financial stability difficult to obtain. The software source code and hardware design of their systems are kept as trade secrets and therefore difficult to study or investigate." Let's go back to hand written ballots and use electronics as a backup. That's the only safe way versus electronic records.

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Kelly O'Connell -- Bio and Archives

Kelly O’Connell is an author and attorney. He was born on the West Coast, raised in Las Vegas, and matriculated from the University of Oregon. After laboring for the Reformed Church in Galway, Ireland, he returned to America and attended law school in Virginia, where he earned a JD and a Master’s degree in Government. He spent a stint working as a researcher and writer of academic articles at a Miami law school, focusing on ancient law and society. He has also been employed as a university Speech & Debate professor. He then returned West and worked as an assistant district attorney. Kelly is now is a private practitioner with a small law practice in New Mexico.
 

Derf

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Jenna Ellis is a young conservative lawyer who has parlayed her work and notoriety as part of President Trump’s 2020 legal team into a national podcast show. The 65 Project filed a legal ethics complaint against Ellis in her home state of Colorado, demanding discipline—up to and including possible disbarment—for public statements she made defending President Trump and his campaign.

This week, Ellis caved. As part of a settlement agreement with the disciplinary authorities who control her law license, she admitted to spreading “misrepresentations” to the public by repeating claims that Trump had been cheated in the 2020 elections. In exchange, Ellis was merely censured for professional misconduct. Her life as a lawyer continues, albeit with a significant professional stain that undermines her future work and places an asterisk next to every future public statement she makes.

Ellis’ admissions should shock the MAGA faithful. They are very damaging to the Trump campaign and the MAGA movement. The Democratic Left will recite them forever.

As part of her censure deal with the Colorado Supreme Court, Ellis admitted to making 10 “misrepresentations” by defending the Trump campaign’s criticisms of the 2020 elections. Ellis stipulated that her statements “undermined the American public’s confidence in the presidential election, violating her duty of candor to the public.” Also, she agreed that she had “selfish motives” for making these allegations.

To finesse her surrender, Ellis has resorted to the same sort of spin control we’re used to seeing from RINO politicians. “They’re now trying to falsely discredit me by saying I admitted I lied,” Ellis tweeted. “That is FALSE. I would NEVER lie. Lying requires INTENTIONALLY making a false statement. I never did that, nor did I stipulate to or admit that.” She noted that the standard she admitted to violating involves “dishonesty, fraud, deceit, OR misrepresentation.”

Obviously, this is splitting hairs. The difference between recklessly “making misrepresentations” and lying is a distinction only a Clinton could appreciate. Either way, the Trump campaign is left hung out to dry. Besides, all of her statements offered in self-defense can no longer be taken at face value because they come from someone who just admitted making numerous “misrepresentations” for “selfish” reasons (see how this will haunt her credibility hereafter?).

The bottom line? In addition to more specific concessions, Ellis admitted to misleading Americans essentially and merely by seconding Trump’s argument that the 2020 elections were fundamentally not on the up and up. To placate the legal demons threatening to confiscate her livelihood, she said she misled Americans by saying what most Republicans believe but leftist-dominated institutions deny: that there were serious, election-affecting irregularities plaguing the final vote tallies in 2020.

Ellis has further played the RINO by taking shots at Kari Lake, even arguing that Lake should not pursue her appeal in the Arizona Governor’s race, despite many serious and well-documented concerns over the conduct of the state’s elections in 2022.


@Derf
Well, at least you added some material to keep it from being a total repost. But why are you tagging me on this? You certainly didn't address @7djengo7's point.
 

Arthur Brain

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No, Carlson has not been lying. The major liars have been democrats and their bootlick media supporters.
And that's why hosts like Carlson just luuurve the likes of you. Even when it's been shown throughout media everywhere that Carlson's own words in private are entirely contradictory to what he was spewing out in public you'll continue to deny the reality. Pretty much sums up Fox's prime target base in general.
 

Right Divider

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And that's why hosts like Carlson just luuurve the likes of you. Even when it's been shown throughout media everywhere that Carlson's own words in private are entirely contradictory to what he was spewing out in public you'll continue to deny the reality. Pretty much sums up Fox's prime target base in general.
This is not an argument that what Carlson said publicly was incorrect.
You are an illogical moron.
 

Arthur Brain

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Democrats committed massive voting fraud and then lied about it. That will never be proven false.
Nah, turns out that the ones lying about it were the ones currently facing lawsuits and issued subpoenas who were peddling lies about massive voting fraud - like Fox News, Carlson, Hannity etc. Paying the price now...
 

Arthur Brain

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This is not an argument that what Carlson said publicly was incorrect.
You are an illogical moron.
Sure it is. It's blatantly obvious that Carlson along with the Fox establishment didn't believe in widespread voter fraud and only pushed it in public cos they were in Trump's pocket effectively and it was the "news" that their gullible audience wanted to lap up.

Being called illogical and a moron by any far right winger is always gonna be a compliment and funny to me!
 

marke

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And that's why hosts like Carlson just luuurve the likes of you. Even when it's been shown throughout media everywhere that Carlson's own words in private are entirely contradictory to what he was spewing out in public you'll continue to deny the reality. Pretty much sums up Fox's prime target base in general.
I asked you to provide examples of Carlson's lies in public, not in private. He has not lied to me with his private emails since I have not read them.
 

marke

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Nah, turns out that the ones lying about it were the ones currently facing lawsuits and issued subpoenas who were peddling lies about massive voting fraud - like Fox News, Carlson, Hannity etc. Paying the price now...
I believe Dominion committed voter fraud, not because Carlson said so but because dozens of evidence from dozens of sources have proven it.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/unbelievable-george-soros-employee-owns-defective-switch-vote-biden-machine

Canada Free Press

Because without America, there is no free world.

Evil That Men Do: Is Defective Software Used on Swing States a Virus Meant to Flip Elections?

UNBELIEVABLE: George Soros Employee Owns Defective Switch-Vote Biden Machines


By Kelly O'Connell ——Bio and Archives--November 12, 2020


Stunning Facts: Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a George Soros lieutenant, whose company Smartmatic, is intimately tied to Dominion Voting Systems who flipped votes from Trump to Biden. Brown was also named UN #2 – Deputy Secretary General on March 3rd, 2006, and also former VP of the World Bank. His machine was used in all the swing states. Could this help explain the MI 200,000 vote sudden dump of Biden ballots, while WI got 100,000 late night delivery?

How did a close George Soros associate , a Quantum Fund VP, who lived in his NYC apartment get accepted for crucial voting machinery?

Kelly O'Connell's Dominion/Smartmatic Vote Fraud Series : • UNBELIEVABLE: George Soros Employee Owns Defective Switch-Vote Biden MachinesSHOCK: US Vote Machines First Used in Communist State to Throw Election by Subterfuge!Dominion Voting System History: Ballot Fraud From Communist Venezuela? Soros Minion: How did a close George Soros associate , a Quantum Fund VP, who lived in his NYC apartment get accepted for crucial voting machinery? Especially after Soros' unrelenting attack on the US justice system by funding leftist DAs? Brown was concurrently Vice-Chair of Soros Fund Management & Vice-Chair of Open Society Institute. Is Lord Brown George Soros' favorite lieutenant? Agent Provocateur Brown: So, what kind of person is Lord Brown? He secretly advances Soros' goals. An adviser to billionaire Beny Steinmetz, Brown ruthlessly used his position to relay confidential information to Soros about Steinmetz' company to ruin a business deal. Brown was sued and fined €90,000. Brown is also Anti-Brexit and a climate zealot. When criticized about his friendship with Soros, and living on his colossal farm, Brown claimed he was "doing God's work." Failed Vote Software Company: Dominion is associated with vote disasters, "Dominion "got into trouble" with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary is Smartmatic, a company "that has played a significant role in the U.S. market over the last decade," according to a report published by UK-based AccessWire. Litigation over Smartmatic "glitches" alleges they impacted the 2010 and 2013 mid-term elections in the Philippines, raising questions of cheating and fraud. An independent review of the source codes used in the machines found multiple problems." Smartmatic & Dominion Failures: Bloomberg criticized computer voter machines and software as inherently flawed in 2019. CBS News reported in 2019, "The voting machine lobby, led by the biggest company, ES&S, believes they are above the law," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore. They have not had anybody hold them accountable even on the most basic matters." Another concern is foreign ownership, and passive investors – like possibly Soros. Smartmatic's figures were manipulated by 1 million votes in its 2017 Venezuela vote. Dominion failed in 2018 GA, but was retained, and failed again in GA and switched 6,000 ballots in MI this election, while PA, NV, AZ, WI, MN all used this. In 2019, GA citizens petitioned to have Dominion Voting Systems removed, as it failed in 2018 NV.

 
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Arthur Brain

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I asked you to provide examples of Carlson's lies in public, not in private. He has not lied to me with his private emails since I have not read them.
Well, everything in his podcasts that promoted widespread election fraud. In private he was promoting something else altogether. If you choose not to read his texts that are now in the public domain on the score then that's on you. No excuse for being ignorant about them though.
 

Arthur Brain

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I believe Dominion committed voter fraud, not because Carlson said so but because dozens of evidence from dozens of sources have proven it.
Well, no they haven't Marke, hence why they filed a lawsuit against Fox and why all of the circus with Carlson, Hannity et al has come to public light. Deny it all if you want. There was never any substance to widespread voter fraud and Fox and hosts are paying the price for it. Not a good idea to slander a company that has plenty of means to fight back.
 

marke

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Sure it is. It's blatantly obvious that Carlson along with the Fox establishment didn't believe in widespread voter fraud and only pushed it in public cos they were in Trump's pocket effectively and it was the "news" that their gullible audience wanted to lap up.

Being called illogical and a moron by any far right winger is always gonna be a compliment and funny to me!
No matter what evil motive leftists may hurl at Carson for exposing voting fraud, he was right to do so.
 

marke

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Pffft, when are the far right ever actually happy about anything? And no, doofus, I have no interest in destroying anyone's doormat let alone country. Some of you lot are just loop the loop out there...
America is suffering from the worst economic and social troubles experienced in decades because crooks have stolen the election and are doing evil primarily motivated by their desire to rob the nation of its assets and give obscene amounts of those assets to themselves and their supporters.
 

marke

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Well, everything in his podcasts that promoted widespread election fraud. In private he was promoting something else altogether. If you choose not to read his texts that are now in the public domain on the score then that's on you. No excuse for being ignorant about them though.
If Carlson said in private that there was no voting fraud then he was wrong.
 
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