For Those Who Still Insist That There Was Election Fraud

[annabenedetti]

Putin was smart to wait until Biden put America into dependence on Russia oil before invading a country Biden and his son already raped.

marke, marke, marke.

We're not dependent on Russian oil.

The US imports Russian oil, but it is not highly dependent on the country for its supplies.

In 2021, the US imported an average of 209,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil and 500,000 bpd of other petroleum products from Russia, according to the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers (AFPM) trade association.

This represented three percent of US crude oil imports and one percent of the total crude oil processed by US refineries. By contrast, the US imported 61 percent of its crude oil from Canada, 10 percent from Mexico, and six percent from Saudi Arabia in the same year.




Why did Putin wait? Some intelligence suggests he had an agreement with China to wait until after the Olympics concluded. But President Biden has been working with Ukraine and the rest of Europe since last year because it was no secret what Putin's plans were.

 

[marke]

marke, marke, marke.

We're not dependent on Russian oil.

The US imports Russian oil, but it is not highly dependent on the country for its supplies.

In 2021, the US imported an average of 209,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil and 500,000 bpd of other petroleum products from Russia, according to the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers (AFPM) trade association.

This represented three percent of US crude oil imports and one percent of the total crude oil processed by US refineries. By contrast, the US imported 61 percent of its crude oil from Canada, 10 percent from Mexico, and six percent from Saudi Arabia in the same year.




Why did Putin wait? Some intelligence suggests he had an agreement with China to wait until after the Olympics concluded. But President Biden has been working with Ukraine and the rest of Europe since last year because it was no secret what Putin's plans were.

World gas prices have skyrocketed since Biden shut down American oil independence and claiming Biden's depraved energy policies had nothing to do with that is beyond stupid, it is unhinged lunacy.

 

[annabenedetti]

World gas prices have skyrocketed since Biden shut down American oil independence and claiming Biden's depraved energy policies had nothing to do with that is beyond stupid, it is unhinged lunacy.

3%, marke.

 

[Arthur Brain]

That's probably fair. You do realize that bad people can be geniuses, right?

Do you seriously think that Trump would side with Putin over his decision to invade Ukraine?



I hope so. Biden should be sitting in a warm garden with a blanket over his legs, not carrying the nuclear football.



Yes. And?



You think I'm a socialist? When I advocate a minimum wage of zero. And end to public education, housing and welfare? Is that what you think a socialist is?

What planet are you on?



Sure.

Except he isn't. There's nothing "genius" about his invasion of the Ukraine. Trump is the one calling him a genius over it so do the math.

Eh, Biden may not be the best to hold office but still way preferable to the former idiot.

So, now you're acknowledging that Trump isn't a socialist - despite you directly calling him one a few posts ago? Putin obviously isn't so get a grip.

Of course I don't think you're a socialist. I think you're a far right wingnut.

Sure I don't want censorship, never have and have been consistent on that score on here, else go find a post of mine where I advocate it. Good luck.

 

[marke]

3%, marke.

3% means very little to poor people like me. Tens of millions of Americans struggling to make a living in today's socialist democrat fascist society are hurt very badly by gas prices which have skyrocketed from just over $2.00 per gal. under Trump to just under $4.00 under Biben.

President Obama: Cap-And-Trade=Energy Prices Necessarily Skyrocketing?!?​

 

[Stripe]

There's nothing "genius" about his invasion of the Ukraine.

And it's the old bait-and-switch.

It's probably fair to say that "Trump calls Putin a genius for his tactics."

Note how that is different from your obvious agenda to tie Trump to the invasion?

Do try to engage rationally.

do the math.

Your words never add up.

Here's another example:

Now you're acknowledging that Trump isn't a socialist.

Trump is a socialist.

Get a grip.

Of course I don't think you're a socialist. I think you're a far right wingnut.

"I think that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me."

Sure I don't want censorship, never have and have been consistent on that score on here, else go find a post of mine where I advocate it. Good luck.

I'm sure we won't have to wait long.

 

[Arthur Brain]

And it's the old bait-and-switch.

It's probably fair to say that "Trump calls Putin a genius for his tactics."

Note how that is different from your obvious agenda to tie Trump to the invasion?

Do try to engage rationally.



Your words never add up.

Here's another example:



Trump is a socialist.

Get a grip.



"I think that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me."

I'm sure we won't have to wait long.

Well, no it isn't. In fact it's just an idiotic thing to posit. Putin's "tactics" aren't "genius" in any way, shape or form and if you agree with the ex clown of a president then you are a monumental moron.

Trump is not a socialist. He's an egotist, a narcissist, a self preening windbag et al but hey, if you think he's one then why are you still whining and blabbering on about him being swindled out of the last election? He wasn't, obviously but wow, you've been invested in that haven't ya? The truth of the matter is he's neither left nor right in politics but just a self serving git who veers whichever way the favorable wind blows...

Aw, that's nice. Let me add pillock to the former as well.

Longer than you to come up with a post of mine that venerates censorship it would seem. What's the matter, can't find one?

 

[Stripe]

Well, no it isn't. In fact it's just an idiotic thing to posit. Putin's "tactics" aren't "genius" in any way, shape or form and if you agree with the ex clown of a president then you are a monumental moron.

Oh, so now the test is whether I agree with Trump's assessment of Putin?

Fine. Anyone who can retain control over a nation, let alone Russia, for decades has gifts far exceeding 99.9999 percent of the planet.

Now suddenly I want to invade Ukraine. :|

Trump is not a socialist.

No? He didn't sign welfare bills? He didn't advocate stimulus?

He's an egotist, a narcissist, a self preening windbag et al

And therefore he can't be a socialist?

but hey, if you think he's one then why are you still whining and blabbering on about him being swindled out of the last election?

The evidence, remember?

Your opinions of the characters of people don't prove your assertion at the top of this thread. You ask why we believe the election was illegitimate, we provide reasons, you screech and wail that Trumpmanbad. You've latched onto the fact that I can concur with you that Trump is a deeply flawed individual. However, this does nothing to address the evidence. It's just more of you screeching.

he's neither left nor right

Pro-abortion
Pro-fag
Socialist

Left

a self serving git who veers whichever way the favorable wind blows

All leftist traits.

Aw, that's nice

What is?

 

[marke]

Well, no it isn't. In fact it's just an idiotic thing to posit. Putin's "tactics" aren't "genius" in any way, shape or form and if you agree with the ex clown of a president then you are a monumental moron.

Trump is not a socialist. He's an egotist, a narcissist, a self preening windbag et al but hey, if you think he's one then why are you still whining and blabbering on about him being swindled out of the last election? He wasn't, obviously but wow, you've been invested in that haven't ya? The truth of the matter is he's neither left nor right in politics but just a self serving git who veers whichever way the favorable wind blows...

Aw, that's nice. Let me add pillock to the former as well.

Longer than you to come up with a post of mine that venerates censorship it would seem. What's the matter, can't find one?

The nice thing about Trump that set him well apart from Hillary is that he understood how to align himself with the values and will of the majority of Americans. Hillary and her ilk must cheat to win elections by fraud since they represent the radical minority of Americans.

 

[User Name]

3% means very little to poor people like me. Tens of millions of Americans struggling to make a living in today's socialist democrat fascist society are hurt very badly by gas prices which have skyrocketed from just over $2.00 per gal. under Trump to just under $4.00 under Biben.

 

[User Name]

World gas prices have skyrocketed since Biden shut down American oil independence and claiming Biden's depraved energy policies had nothing to do with that is beyond stupid, it is unhinged lunacy.

Truth to your lies, right here:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464745657617420292

 

[marke]

View attachment 2856

Imagine that! Trump drastically lowered gasoline prices from the Bush/Obama eras and Biden is trashing Trump's policies because he thinks Trump was endangering the planet by encouraging reliance on fossil fuels. Morons who stupidly believe man has damaged the environment and man can fix the damage are laying grievous burdens on the backs of the poor with the massive cost increases necessary to fund their stupidity.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Oh, so now the test is whether I agree with Trump's assessment of Putin?

Fine. Anyone who can retain control over a nation, let alone Russia, for decades has gifts far exceeding 99.9999 percent of the planet.

Now suddenly I want to invade Ukraine. :|



No? He didn't sign welfare bills? He didn't advocate stimulus?



And therefore he can't be a socialist?



The evidence, remember?

Your opinions of the characters of people don't prove your assertion at the top of this thread. You ask why we believe the election was illegitimate, we provide reasons, you screech and wail that Trumpmanbad. You've latched onto the fact that I can concur with you that Trump is a deeply flawed individual. However, this does nothing to address the evidence. It's just more of you screeching.



Pro-abortion
Pro-fag
Socialist

Left

All leftist traits.

What is?

Hmm, you think that retaining control over a country like Russia is solely Putin's doing? What "gifts"would you be talking about exactly?

Telling that you equate welfare/benefits with socialism. The entire Republican party must be socialists as well then?

Where it comes to evidence to support the wingnut notion that the last election was rigged then hmmm, sorely lacking as it had to be as there isn't any. This is why (thickos and conspiracy nuts notwithstanding) the entire world has long since accepted the results and just laugh at the dolts including el former presidente himself that still persist with it.

If by "pro abortion-pro fag" you mean he's a socialist then maybe you do think the Republicans are all socialists cos the laws on either ain't gonna change anytime soon. There's no way any politician would enact some of the far right nuttery akin to making homosexuality a crime or some such.

"Leftist traits"?!

No luck finding a post of mine that endorses censorship then? Aw, never mind eh?

 

[Stripe]

Hmm, you think that retaining control over a country like Russia is solely Putin's doing?

What "gifts"would you be talking about exactly?

You're just pushing random buttons, aren't you?

Telling that you equate welfare/benefits with socialism.

What planet are you living on where social programs cannot be deemed as under the umbrella of socialism?

The entire Republican party must be socialists as well then?

Yip.

there isn't any.

Except that:
Fact: Hunter Biden was active in China, Russia and Ukraine. And Kazakhstan.
Fact: His laptop tied Joebiden to the money trail.
Fact: The New York Post reporting has been justified.
Fact: Twitter suppressed the story, as did most of the establishment media.
Fact: Polls show that people might have voted the other way had they had the facts. Maybe enough to sway the result.

And that is only one of the ways in which the election was tainted.

But you don't care. You start the thread, mock and ridicule, then declare "no evidence" when the evidence is presented.

You offer nothing of value to the discussion.

the entire world has long since accepted the results.

Guess how relevant this is to the facts.

That's right: Not at all.

You bring nothing to the discussion.

If by "pro abortion-pro fag" you mean he's a socialist then maybe you do think the Republicans are all socialists cos the laws on either ain't gonna change anytime soon.

What in the world are you talking about?

There's no way any politician would enact some of the far right nuttery akin to making homosexuality a crime or some such.

No? You don't know that homos were banned in many places not 50 years ago?

Some places still have such laws.

This whole reality lark is a genuine struggle for you, ain't it?

 

[Arthur Brain]

You're just pushing random buttons, aren't you?



What planet are you living on where social programs cannot be deemed as under the umbrella of socialism?



Yip.



Except that:
Fact: Hunter Biden was active in China, Russia and Ukraine. And Kazakhstan.
Fact: His laptop tied Joebiden to the money trail.
Fact: The New York Post reporting has been justified.
Fact: Twitter suppressed the story, as did most of the establishment media.
Fact: Polls show that people might have voted the other way had they had the facts. Maybe enough to sway the result.

And that is only one of the ways in which the election was tainted.

But you don't care. You start the thread, mock and ridicule, then declare "no evidence" when the evidence is presented.

You offer nothing of value to the discussion.



Guess how relevant this is to the facts.

That's right: Not at all.

You bring nothing to the discussion.



What in the world are you talking about?



No? You don't know that homos were banned in many places not 50 years ago?

Some places still have such laws.

This whole reality lark is a genuine struggle for you, ain't it?

Nah, but your buttons sure seem to be pushed.

Earth, you? Programs giving provision to people sick/out of work does not equate to "socialism".

It's relevant because the sane world recognizes that the claims of fraud/rigging were baseless from the get go. That's it's been confirmed after multiple investigations and audits only cemented the fact. If you think Trump was swindled out of the last election then you'e an idiot, simple as that.

Well, you're anti democracy aren't ya so all parties in the US are probably "socialist" according to you.

Course I'm aware of what laws were like 50 years ago and thankfully progress has been made where it's no longer the case and homophobia, discrimination and ignorance is no longer tolerated, at least in the West. That there are pebble brained dipsticks who have a hang up with homosexuality and would wish to curtail their freedoms and else doesn't alter reality one jot.

Still no luck finding a post of mine endorsing censorship then?

 

[Stripe]

Programs giving provision to people sick/out of work does not equate to "socialism".

By all means, tell us what equates to socialism on "Earth."

It's relevant

What people believe is irrelevant to the facts.

Fact: Hunter Biden was getting paid by Russian, Ukrainian and Chinese billionaires, among others. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Joe Biden is linked to the flow of cash by Hunter's laptop. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Twitter suppressed reporting of the story. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Polls show that had people known, Trump might have won. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

What you need is taking points that are not so easily shown as worthless.

If you think Joebiden won the last election legitimately, you'e an idiot. Simple as that.

Well, you're anti democracy aren't ya so all parties in the US are probably "socialist" according to you.

Yes. And?

Course I'm aware of what laws were like 50 years ago and thankfully progress has been made where it's no longer the case and homophobia, discrimination and ignorance is no longer tolerated, at least in the West. That there are pebble brained dipsticks who have a hang up with homosexuality and would wish to curtail their freedoms and else doesn't alter reality one jot.

And Trump is pro-homo.
He is pro-abortion.
He is a socialist.

 

[Arthur Brain]

By all means, tell us what equates to socialism on "Earth."



What people believe is irrelevant to the facts.

Fact: Hunter Biden was getting paid by Russian, Ukrainian and Chinese billionaires, among others. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Joe Biden is linked to the flow of cash by Hunter's laptop. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Twitter suppressed reporting of the story. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

Fact: Polls show that had people known, Trump might have won. That most people regard the US election as settled does not change that fact.

What you need is taking points that are not so easily shown as worthless.

If you think Joebiden won the last election legitimately, you'e an idiot. Simple as that.



Yes. And?



And Trump is pro-homo.
He is pro-abortion.
He is a socialist.

He lost goofball, simple as that. Them's the facts and you carry on yapping on if ya like. Your "facts" are worth as much as Russian state media so whine away as you will. Considering you think he's all of your latter it's a wonder you're still so bothered by what all sane folk have long since acknowledged.

To be fair to Trump, he's as much "pro homo" as any rational and normal person. Gay people should have the same rights as everyone else. Don't like it, hey, go to Russia.

 

[marke]

Hmm, you think that retaining control over a country like Russia is solely Putin's doing? What "gifts"would you be talking about exactly?

Telling that you equate welfare/benefits with socialism. The entire Republican party must be socialists as well then?

Where it comes to evidence to support the wingnut notion that the last election was rigged then hmmm, sorely lacking as it had to be as there isn't any. This is why (thickos and conspiracy nuts notwithstanding) the entire world has long since accepted the results and just laugh at the dolts including el former presidente himself that still persist with it.

If by "pro abortion-pro fag" you mean he's a socialist then maybe you do think the Republicans are all socialists cos the laws on either ain't gonna change anytime soon. There's no way any politician would enact some of the far right nuttery akin to making homosexuality a crime or some such.

"Leftist traits"?!

No luck finding a post of mine that endorses censorship then? Aw, never mind eh?

There is no excuse for democrat cultists to claim there is no evidence of election fraud in 2020 based upon ignorance. They do not want to investigate fraud because if they did they fear (rightly so) they likely would uncover evidence of voter fraud they do not want to know about.

 

[marke]

He lost goofball, simple as that. Them's the facts and you carry on yapping on if ya like. Your "facts" are worth as much as Russian state media so whine away as you will. Considering you think he's all of your latter it's a wonder you're still so bothered by what all sane folk have long since acknowledged.

To be fair to Trump, he's as much "pro homo" as any rational and normal person. Gay people should have the same rights as everyone else. Don't like it, hey, go to Russia.

Trump found huge success by tapping into the heart of the American soul and supporting core patriotic values. Hillary's mistake was to mock patriotic values and depend on the support of the wicked and voter fraud to steamroll over tens of millions of patriotic American voters wanting to preserve respect for God and the Constitution.

 

[Stripe]

He lost

You need to get a grasp on reality.

Your "facts" are worth as much as Russian state media

But all you will do is screech.

You demand evidence. You mock and ridicule. But you never engage rationally.

Hunter Biden was mixed up with foreign billionaires. Fact. Brain's counter? "Russian media."

Joe Biden was linked to the flow of cash through Hunter's laptopup. Fact. Brain's counter? "Russian media."

Twitter suppressed the report. Fact. Brain's counter? "Russian media."

The polling shows that the report might have changed the election result. Fact. Brain's counter? "Russian media."

so whine away as you will. Considering you think he's all of your latter it's a wonder you're still so bothered by what all sane folk have long since acknowledged.

I'm not bothered. I don't care who wins elections in the US, or anywhere else for that matter.

Gay people should have the same rights as everyone else.

This isn't about rights, it's about the law.