Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

marke

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Nope, they're telling us that the financial information Trump supplied to them over the last 10 years for accounting purposes has been found to be untrustworthy. Trump's fault, not theirs. They are accountants, not auditors.
Accusations of sins and crimes are not guarantees that sins or crimes have been committed. Just look at how many millions of leftist wolves falsely accused Trump of colluding with the Russians, not knowing it was Hillary the whole time who was committing Watergate-type crimes right under their noses.
 

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Barr has a long history of making both good and bad decisions in the same time period. Look at how he botched the investigation into the Ruby Ridge murders by federal agents under his supervision.


The Senate Judiciary Committee hearings for Attorney General nominee William Barr have focused heavily on Barr’s views on Special Counsel Robert Mueller. But nobody is asking about Barr’s legal crusade for blanket immunity for federal agents who killed American citizens.

Barr received a routine questionnaire from the Judiciary Committee asking him to disclose his past work including pro bono activities “serving the disadvantaged.” The “disadvantaged” that Barr spent the most time helping was an FBI agent who slayed an Idaho mother holding her baby in 1992. Barr spent two weeks organizing former Attorneys General and others to support “an FBI sniper in defending against criminal charges in connection with the Ruby Ridge incident.” Barr also “assisted in framing legal arguments advanced… in the district court and the subsequent appeal to the Ninth Circuit,” he told the committee.

That charitable work (for an FBI agent who already had a federally-paid law firm defending him) helped tamp down one of the biggest scandals during Barr’s time as Attorney General from 1991 to early 1993. Barr was responsible for both the U.S. Marshals Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, two federal agencies whose misconduct at Ruby Ridge “helped to weaken the bond of trust that must exist between ordinary Americans and our law enforcement agencies,” according to a 1995 Senate Judiciary Committee report.
 

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I was active on a large online right-wing forum during the weeks leading up to the January 6th riot at the Capitol. The specific thread in question was dedicated to QAnon. The protest at the Capitol was scheduled weeks in advance, and some posters on the thread were calling for violence on that day. The violence we saw at the Capitol was not spontaneous; it was planned well in advance. With that knowledge in mind, this incriminating news comes as no surprise:

A text message sent days before the attack on the Capitol is raising new questions about what members of Congress on Capitol Hill knew about how January 6 would play out before it occurred.

The Washington Post obtained a message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows with a dire warning for the president.

“If POTUS allows this to occur… we’re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic,” read the text, described by The Post as having been sent by a member of the House Freedom Caucus, a far-right group of Republicans, who had “knowledge of the president’s planning for that day”.

 
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marke

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I was active on a large online right-wing forum during the weeks leading up to the January 6th riot at the Capitol. The specific thread in question was dedicated to QAnon. The protest at the Capitol was scheduled weeks in advance, and some posters on the thread were calling for violence on that day. The violence we saw at the Capitol was not spontaneous; it was planned well in advance. With that knowledge in mind, this incriminating news comes as no surprise:

A text message sent days before the attack on the Capitol is raising new questions about what members of Congress on Capitol Hill knew about how January 6 would play out before it occurred.

The Washington Post obtained a message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows with a dire warning for the president.

“If POTUS allows this to occur… we’re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic,” read the text, described by The Post as having been sent by a member of the House Freedom Caucus, a far-right group of Republicans, who had “knowledge of the president’s planning for that day”.

Fringe members of right-wing organizations do not speak for Christian conservatives any more than the black identity racist radical Louis Farrakhan speaks for all blacks.
 

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Fringe members of right-wing organizations do not speak for Christian conservatives any more than the black identity racist radical Louis Farrakhan speaks for all blacks.
The larger point is that Trump was well-informed of the ramifications of the riot days ahead of the event and did little for hours when it got put of hand!
 

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The larger point is that Trump was well-informed of the ramifications of the riot days ahead of the event and did little for hours when it got put of hand!
Pelosi knew about certain plans made by the potential attendees of the Jan 6 march but she specifically did not want security involved that was outside her conspiratorial control.
 

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Pelosi knew about certain plans made by the potential attendees of the Jan 6 march but she specifically did not want security involved that was outside her conspiratorial control.
First you rush past the motivations of Trump and the mob itself to prop up Nancy as a root cause? Next, you ignore the actual command structure of the capitol police. Nancy makes no direct calls regarding such decisions. And, her indirect role is shared with Mitch McConnell.

In sum, your attempt at dodging the issue is a convoluted mess.
 

marke

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First you rush past the motivations of Trump and the mob itself to prop up Nancy as a root cause? Next, you ignore the actual command structure of the capitol police. Nancy makes no direct calls regarding such decisions. And, her indirect role is shared with Mitch McConnell.

In sum, your attempt at dodging the issue is a convoluted mess.
You can believe the Jan 6 protest was an attempted coup if you like but you must first assume without proof and against the evidence that there was no democrat voter fraud in 2020.
 

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You can believe the Jan 6 protest was an attempted coup if you like but you must first assume without proof and against the evidence that there was no democrat voter fraud in 2020.
Per The Hill, there is a new poll out. Morning Consult-Politico did this poll. It asked respondents whether they believed Trump should issue pardons to the January 6 insurrectionists if given the opportunity.

The results were a resounding NO. The poll showed that 68 percent of the people questioned said absolutely not. Twelve percent of people had no opinion. And 20 percent said yes, he should. And of the Trump voters — over half said — no pardons.

 
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Per The Hill, there is a new poll out. Morning Consult-Politico did this poll. It asked respondents whether they believed Trump should issue pardons to the January 6 insurrectionists if given the opportunity.

The results were a resounding NO. The poll showed that 68 percent of the people questioned said absolutely not. Twelve percent of people had no opinion. And 20 percent said yes, he should. And of the Trump voters — over half said — no pardons.

Nobody needs to pardon thugs who commit violence, including the hundreds of thugs who committed hundreds of acts of violence in leftist demonstrations in 2020 that democrats are strangely ignoring now that Biden has his henchmen focusing only on his political enemies and nobody else.
 

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Nobody needs to pardon thugs who commit violence, including the hundreds of thugs who committed hundreds of acts of violence
I'm glad you agree that the thugs who invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 don't deserve, and won't get, pardons.
 

marke

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I'm glad you agree that the thugs who invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 don't deserve, and won't get, pardons.
I do agree that criminal thugs who advocated violence and committed violence on Jan 6 should be charged and tried, including those working for the FBI and democrat officers in the congressional and DC police forces. But those miscreants were less than 1% of the marchers at the Capitol that day, proving the overwhelming majority of the demonstrators were completely peaceful and harmless.
 

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Trump is no more responsible for the Jan 6 violence at the Capitol than Kamala Harris is responsible for Officer Dornan's death at the hands of leftist rioters she endorsed.


ST. LOUIS —
A retired St. Louis police captain killed by people who broke into a pawn shop after protests turned violent was a gregarious and outspoken leader who mentored youths and insisted on strict ethical conduct among his employees, a longtime colleague said Tuesday.

David Dorn, 77, was found dead on the sidewalk in front of Lee's Pawn & Jewelry about 2:30 a.m. Tuesday. No arrests have been made.

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The shooting and theft apparently was posted on Facebook Live, but the video has since been taken down. It came on a violent night in St. Louis, where four officers were shot, officers were pelted with rocks and fireworks and 55 businesses were burglarized or damaged, including a convenience store that burned. Police also shot and gravely injured a burglary suspect who they say shot at officers.





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If you’re able to, chip in now to the
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to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota.
 

marke

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Obama weaponized the IRS, calling on Lois Lerner to deny conservative organizations their civil rights in the leadup to the 2012 election. Neither Obama nor Lois Lerner had to worry about being charged for their part in the crime because Lerner pleaded the 5th, effectively denying Congress access to critical evidence against her or Obama. How slick.


House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., reconvened a hearing Wednesday that began more than nine months ago to investigate whether the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) targeting conservative groups, a scandal that was exposed in 2013.

The problem was, he didn't have a witness to answer his questions - again.

Lerner once again asserted her Fifth Amendment right not to testify, as she did last May when she was first called to testify. Before she first spoke at the hearing Wednesday, Issa warned that his committee would consider whether to hold her in contempt if she declined to testify.
 
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