If 98% of the mob of southern white democrat racists thought lynching blacks for being black was right, that does not make it right. Likewise, if 200 million Americans believe unproven democrat claims that no voter fraud was committed that does not prove no fraud was committed. Anyone who thinks violent rioting is the way to effect changes in government is an idiot.
Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"
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A criminal investigation into Trump’s 2 January call prodding Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “just find” him 11,780 votes to block Joe Biden’s win in the state is making headway. The Georgia district attorney running the inquiry is now also sharing information with the House committee investigating the 6 January attack on the Capitol in Washington DC.
The Georgia investigation’s merits were bolstered in late September by the release of a well-documented 107-page study from the Brookings Institution detailing Trump’s high-pressure drive to block Biden’s win in the state. The report concluded that Trump faced “substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes”.
Boasting extensive documentation from the public record, the report notes that Trump’s broad effort to nullify the outcome in Georgia included personal contacts with the governor, the state attorney general and the secretary of state’s chief investigator.
Not that I think charges are likely, but at least it's there for the historical record.
The Brookings Institute has become a radical left-wing anti-American Marxist organization. Their hit piece on Trump is full of lies, distortions, misinterpretations, and leftist intolerance and bias.
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Well, let's hope charges come about anyway.
I think it is wicked for people to hope the innocent are charged while the wicked go free.Well, let's hope charges come about anyway.
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20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Excerpts:
Transcript of an interview with Former National Security Council Senior Director for European and Russian Affairs, Fiona Hill, that aired Sunday, October 10, 2021, on "Face the Nation."
HILL: ... the moment is incredibly dangerous. I mean, we are in a dangerous moment...
I'm seeing the populism on the right is the most threatening at the moment. The populism on the left contributes to the overall atmosphere of polarization, but very sadly, it's on the right that we're seeing the main threats. Its actors on the right, not just in Congress and in the Senate, you know, places where you'd actually expect people to be upholding their oath of office to the Constitution and to the people. But it's actors on that right who are also basically calling for violence against fellow Americans and at all times are talking down the integrity of the election system...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, and that's exactly why I've been asking that is the groundwork being laid question, because certainly that seemed to be the message here. You know, in the book Peril, Robert Costa and Bob Woodward wrote, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, at the end of it, is quoted as comparing the Jan. 6 siege of the Capitol to The Great Dress Rehearsal. You're a Russia analyst, you know immediately what that phrase is, which is what Lenin called an uprising that preceded the revolution. I read that and I said, "Dear God."
HILL: Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I mean, he, the general, is saying that this is a precursor potentially to further violence? Is this overstating things in a historical sense?
HILL: He's not overstating it at all, because I mean, we all saw in real time what happened on Jan. 6 at the Capitol building, and Gen. Milley was absolutely right. Any student of history, but any observer of even American politics over the last decade- I mean, when have we seen something like this before? We haven't. Not in our lifetimes. We've seen episodes, you know, particularly during the civil rights movement and of course, during Vietnam, where there were protests. But storming the Capitol building of the United States? I mean, this is exactly the thing that you think of in historical revolutions. Storming the Bastille during the French Revolution, storming the Winter Palace during the Russian Revolution that General Milley was alluding to. And as he was saying, we've seen many historical episodes where there is violence, people discount it. They think that this is just a passing occurrence. Vice President Pence has been downplaying it, even though he would have been targeted. He was targeted. They wanted to lynch him. And then people sweeping this away, saying nothing happened here. And the next time around, you get the real thing where people actually do seize those major buildings. And I said that also in the book that this was, in effect, a dress rehearsal for something that could be happening near term in 2022. 2024. We've got election cycles here that will heighten the tensions. And once people start talking about violence, once the threshold is crossed, we're in a danger zone.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But there are so many people who will look at the investigation Chairman Schiff is working on and say that's just politics, that's just political messaging. They'll look at the violence- I've heard people tell me this on Capitol Hill and just say, that's a riot. A few crazy people. Not the precursor or a- a dry run of a coup, as the general put it, in the terms of that you are right now. I mean, how do you respond to people saying you're overreacting essentially?
HILL: Well, people are saying that because they don't have any personal experience of these kinds of events. But I can certainly tell you as an immigrant, as somebody who came to the United States in 1989 against the backdrop of the crumbling of the Berlin Wall and the backdrop of the end of the Cold War, I also know immigrants like myself who came from war zones, who came from places like the former Yugoslavia or places like Sri Lanka, which is being pulled apart by civil war and conflict. Afghanistan, Syria, you know, you name it. All of the people that I know who are immigrants are looking around and saying, can't people see this? We've come from war torn societies. All of the hallmarks are here.
Transcript of an interview with Former National Security Council Senior Director for European and Russian Affairs, Fiona Hill, that aired Sunday, October 10, 2021, on "Face the Nation."
HILL: ... the moment is incredibly dangerous. I mean, we are in a dangerous moment...
I'm seeing the populism on the right is the most threatening at the moment. The populism on the left contributes to the overall atmosphere of polarization, but very sadly, it's on the right that we're seeing the main threats. Its actors on the right, not just in Congress and in the Senate, you know, places where you'd actually expect people to be upholding their oath of office to the Constitution and to the people. But it's actors on that right who are also basically calling for violence against fellow Americans and at all times are talking down the integrity of the election system...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, and that's exactly why I've been asking that is the groundwork being laid question, because certainly that seemed to be the message here. You know, in the book Peril, Robert Costa and Bob Woodward wrote, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, at the end of it, is quoted as comparing the Jan. 6 siege of the Capitol to The Great Dress Rehearsal. You're a Russia analyst, you know immediately what that phrase is, which is what Lenin called an uprising that preceded the revolution. I read that and I said, "Dear God."
HILL: Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I mean, he, the general, is saying that this is a precursor potentially to further violence? Is this overstating things in a historical sense?
HILL: He's not overstating it at all, because I mean, we all saw in real time what happened on Jan. 6 at the Capitol building, and Gen. Milley was absolutely right. Any student of history, but any observer of even American politics over the last decade- I mean, when have we seen something like this before? We haven't. Not in our lifetimes. We've seen episodes, you know, particularly during the civil rights movement and of course, during Vietnam, where there were protests. But storming the Capitol building of the United States? I mean, this is exactly the thing that you think of in historical revolutions. Storming the Bastille during the French Revolution, storming the Winter Palace during the Russian Revolution that General Milley was alluding to. And as he was saying, we've seen many historical episodes where there is violence, people discount it. They think that this is just a passing occurrence. Vice President Pence has been downplaying it, even though he would have been targeted. He was targeted. They wanted to lynch him. And then people sweeping this away, saying nothing happened here. And the next time around, you get the real thing where people actually do seize those major buildings. And I said that also in the book that this was, in effect, a dress rehearsal for something that could be happening near term in 2022. 2024. We've got election cycles here that will heighten the tensions. And once people start talking about violence, once the threshold is crossed, we're in a danger zone.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But there are so many people who will look at the investigation Chairman Schiff is working on and say that's just politics, that's just political messaging. They'll look at the violence- I've heard people tell me this on Capitol Hill and just say, that's a riot. A few crazy people. Not the precursor or a- a dry run of a coup, as the general put it, in the terms of that you are right now. I mean, how do you respond to people saying you're overreacting essentially?
HILL: Well, people are saying that because they don't have any personal experience of these kinds of events. But I can certainly tell you as an immigrant, as somebody who came to the United States in 1989 against the backdrop of the crumbling of the Berlin Wall and the backdrop of the end of the Cold War, I also know immigrants like myself who came from war zones, who came from places like the former Yugoslavia or places like Sri Lanka, which is being pulled apart by civil war and conflict. Afghanistan, Syria, you know, you name it. All of the people that I know who are immigrants are looking around and saying, can't people see this? We've come from war torn societies. All of the hallmarks are here.
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Leftists bomb, assault, burn, and kill in their rampages but think right-wingers are the biggest threat to America for espousing conservative ideas.
On a related matter: Barack Obama broke multiple laws by secretly giving automatic weapons to Mexican drug gangs and then refusing to allow Holder to testify before Congress.
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@marke is so polarized that he thinks two wrongs make a right.
Leftist rube: "Trump supporters must be hunted down and hauled off to jail before they bomb the Capitol and shoot innocent legislators."
Historical facts: Leftist protesters were the only ones who have ever bombed the Capitol and democrat presidents pardoned the perps in all three separate events. Also, a leftist protester has been the only one to have ever tried to mass murder congressmen.
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Who are you quoting? Because that's what quotation marks indicate. So who's the source of your quote?
Otherwise, I totally agree with prosecuting any insurrectionist who invaded the Capitol building on Jan. 6 and anyone who aided and abetted the invasion.
Thousands of protesters "invaded" the Capitol. If their visit was supposedly an "invasion" then why did the Capitol police let them in? And how many of those "invaders" were there to protest the congressional exposures of voter fraud scheduled for that day?
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Again: Who are you quoting? Because that's what quotation marks indicate. So who's the source of your quote?
I am quoting a local tribal Stupidite who only believes what stupid lying leftist democrats tell him. Let's call him "Goofus" to protect his identity.
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Let’s not. Let’s just assume you’re confabulating again.
If Adam Schiff can invent a ghost whistleblower he can quote at will without risk of cross-examination then why do you object to witnesses remaining anonymous?
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C'mon, man. Just tell us if Schiff's anonymous whistleblower was real or not. If he or she or it was real then prove it.marke, with another random jumble of noise...
