This by the ever-quotable Hitchens seems appropriate: "Time spent arguing with the faithful is, oddly enough, almost never wasted."
Better, but I'm looking for something more... (shades of Bill O'Riely ugh) pithy.:chuckle:
This by the ever-quotable Hitchens seems appropriate: "Time spent arguing with the faithful is, oddly enough, almost never wasted."
Not sure of the attribution...
Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Stuart
No problem.I would very much appreciate it. When typing in my user name, it would not let me finish with the "ts." Is it possible to fix this? Thanks,
- Chalmer
I have an atheist friend who once said, "If atheism is a religion than bald is a hair color." I don't know if the quote is his own material but I think it's pretty funny.
RE: Bob's List of scientists
That's not bad... especially since in police work bald is considered a hair color. atrol:
Nope. You're the first TH. Sweet! :first::think:...I suppose someone has already had at the old, reliable standby,
"IEEEEEOOOOYYAAAAA!" *crackle* "OOOOOEEEAAAAAAAAAA!"
lain:
Really? There are actually over 230 verses concerning intelligence (only it's called wisdom in the Bible). :doh:
Thanks for taking the wind outta my sails, ya big jerk
Oooops. Sorry. But you know first cop to the doughnut wins! :banana:
Nuts!
What every atheist says about 10 seconds after dying.
"If I were not an atheist, I think I would have to be a Catholic because if it wasn't the forces of natural selection that designed fish, It must have been an Italian."
- Douglas Adams
"The way to see by faith, is to shut the eye of reason"
Ben Franklin
"Give a man a fish he eats for a day, give a man religion and he'll starve to death praying for a fish." Not sure who said it but thought it was funny
Redstar quote
Only when they ape Christian ideals and civility. :loser:
It's from his book "Last Chance to See", about animal species either endangered or threatened with extinction, after seeing all the different colourful fish in the Great Barrier Reef. So unless you really, really don't like the stereotype that Italians are quite ... flamboyant, it's not an insult, no.Did he like fish, or was this a cheap shot at nature, italians, and fish?
Because if it is the later I am offended. I am Italian, I like fish and am fascinated by nature.
It's from his book "Last Chance to See", about animal species either endangered or threatened with extinction, after seeing all the different colourful fish in the Great Barrier Reef. So unless you really, really don't like the stereotype that Italians are quite ... flamboyant, it's not an insult, no.
Dawkins is engaged in the discussion with Stein; he admits that the complexity observed in microbiology could be evidence that life on earth originated from a higher intelligence, somewhere out there in the universe. Of course, he claims that such a higher lifeform must have evolved by some kind of Darwinian mechanism. But if genetic and cellular complexity provides evidence that life on earth is too complex to arise by chance, then evolutionists like Dawkins and Francis Crick are just punting to claim it must have originated somewhere else. Dawkins validates the Intelligent Design argument
For those who object that these brilliant men lived prior to the 1859 publication of Darwin’s Origin of Species, consider the following scientific giants all of whom in a time of more open debate, publicly rejected natural origins and Darwinian evolution, and indicated that the evidence supports belief in a supernatural Creator:
Michael Faraday, 1867, Electromagnetism
Gregor Mendel, 1884, Genetics
Louis Pasteur, 1885, Microbiology
James Joule, 1889, Thermodynamics
Lord Kelvin, 1907, Thermodynamics
Joseph Lister, 1912, Modern Surgery
G. W. Carver, 1943, Modern Agriculture
But genetic and cellular complexity do not provide evidence that life on earth is too complex to arise by chance (whatever you mean by chance) so your argument falls on an invalid assumption.
Darwinian natural selection has nothing to do with chance. It's a red herring to suggest that it does. From what I know about Dawkins, it's his contention that the complexity of nature excludes the possibility of a designer.