Town Heretic has your debate style nailed. I hope you don't head into ministry.
My debate style with idiots is vastly different than my style with those willing to learn.
Who's judgement seat was Paul standing before, a mans or God's?
This entire discussion is about men passing judgment according to God's standard and commands; because God knows what is best.
Honestly, how does that make you feel? Would you feel better about yourself if you were sitting in a cell waiting to be stoned?
If the law followed God as it should then I would have thought twice.
Exactly which of the 613 Mosaic Laws were they violating?
I've already explained that to you.
Stupid enough to know what small town politics are like.
Fool
Under the Old Covenant. Under the New Covenant, no, I do not believe that God still commands death for those guilty of sin. For the record, your notion that there is some difference between crime and sin under Olde Covenant law is goofy. I don't accept it as an accurate representation of criminal law.
Can you offer any Scripture from during the actual NC to support your argument.
Those guilty of crimes in the OT could still offer their sacrifices before being punished, and they would still be punished.
If I commit murder I should not get away with it simply because God forgave me.
We know the Pharisees certainly interpreted the law to suit their own ends.
Irrelevant.
The fact they were ignoring the Law is the issue.
Maybe instead of focusing so much on what God commanded in the OC you should spend more time focusing on the Gospel Jesus taught as the NC.
Can you tell me where in Jesus' ministry the Law was abolished?
I accept your concession of the point.
Petty child.
If Jesus had flat out said to stone her then the men would have had what they wanted.
So you would feel fine picking up a stone and throwing it at somebody with the intent to kill them if given the opportunity. How sad.
If it were necessary I would do my duty. That doesn't mean I would be happy about it.
I wonder who brought the woman to them...
You're making assumptions.
He said stone her if you are without sin. Did Rome recognize sin under Jewish law? Probably not.
That's irrelevant. All Rome would have cared about is that He would have said to stone her. He would have been in trouble with Rome.
And we know that she didn't repent how? Jesus, our Lord and Savior said, "I do not condemn you." He forgave her. Why wont you accept that Jesus forgives people so that they can be with His Father?
That didn't have anything to do with the woman.
And I've already explained that there is no forgiveness necessary when one is never condemned.
Your message seems to be that God wont love a homosexual until they have been stoned to death.
You're a fool if that's your takeaway.
I see that you are not intellectually prepared to deal with this so maybe its best if we let it go.
I have no patience for idiots. Power hungry people are always idiots.
As noted, it was you that asserted that what Jesus wrote in the dirt had an impact on the outcome of this event. I have only ever dealt with what Jesus actually said.
You are arguing that it didn't have an effect. If it didn't then explain what was the point?
I suppose that depends on how you define "condemned". How would you care to define it?
It works like this: Condemned-forgiven-no longer condemned.
How so? I have never been guilty of murder.
Sorry, I don't buy into your BE-legalism so I will not split nonexistent hairs with you.
You are exceptionally ignorant.
I see that hypothetical situation are well beyond you reasoning ability. We should probably drop this point as well.
Or maybe you should study the law if you wish to argue against it.
It is interesting to note that the response you did provide actually does more to get you out of stoning somebody than support your statement that they should be stoned. Would you stone somebody if you had the authority to do so?
I've already answered that question above.
Maybe to keep from looking anybody in the eye. Maybe He just doodled while people considered what He has said. As I said, we do not know what He wrote so there is no honest way to say anything about what He wrote.
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