No, your position is pretty clear. One must believe a literal Bible, otherwise it is a house of cards on its way down.
Evolution... Do we believe?
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No, your position is pretty clear. One must believe a literal Bible, otherwise it is a house of cards on its way down.
popsthebuilder
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Oftentimes double and triple entendres are not meant to be taken literally however there is much truth in them on very different levels. The Bible is all double and triple entendre. Thank you.
Actually, there is no way for "evolutionists" to rule out the possibility that a 6,000 year old earth was created with the appearance 4.5 billion years of age. It's just that there is no rational scientific reason to rule a 6,000 year old earth in.
The Buble is not a source of scientific knowledge, nor does it even claim to be such. There isn't a single scientific breakthrough whose source can be traced back to the Bible. It is strictly a book of faith.
6days
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You need to try reading slower.
Interplanner
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Hi, please see the thread just started on Gen 1 as more sensible and scientific. You'll be quite surprised. It is far more rational than you have just stated, since you have put it and faith in the non-rational category.
6days
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Is there any rational scientific reason to believe that Jesus Christ ever existed?
6days
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Exactly! God tells us to have a faith based on reason and logic. God's Word provides a basis for good science.
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alwight
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So Jesus didn't actually:
walk on water,
feed a large crowd with a few loaves and fishes,
heal the sick,
turn water into wine,
rise from the dead? :think:
feed a large crowd with a few loaves and fishes,
heal the sick,
turn water into wine,
rise from the dead? :think:
6days
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Strawman...
That is a separate issue from young earth creationism.
Interplanner
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This sounds rhetorical for you 6days.
Yes, the details of Christ are in space and time, first century Judea and Galilee, teeming with extra detail and particulars that don't exactly matter but provide 'dust' on which 'fingerprints' are found.
The Bible has some figures of speech, but much of the account of Jesus is first hand in ordinary language. One is by an accountant for Rome's revenue department and one is by a general practice physician who was not Jewish. The four accounts don't match exactly on every point because it is exactly and authentically the 1st century in a 3rd world country and a fairly poor population. All the major propositions match exactly.
6days
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You are turning into a Barbarian. He tells outright lies misrepresenting what others have said.
6days
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Not at all!
Do we have evidence to believe God's Word is truth? His Word tells us to believe based on reason. Based on the evidence can we believe that he was born of a virgin? Can we believe that he rose from the dead based on the evidence? The answer is yes we can believe what he tells us
6days
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Different people telling the same stories in their own words with different details but each absolutely consistent with the others.
Interplanner
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The only reason they don't match is the chaotic, poor, destitute, informal, conditions they had to work with, starting with the fact that everything was verbal to begin with. 'Quelle' (source) was verbal Aramaic. It was probably 2 years before Mark wrote anything down. It was several years before Luke went back through verbal and written material to compile.
Ah, are you now suggesting that one need not believe in a literal Bible? Please clarify.
Not according to the fundamentalists here. One must believe in the Bible---every word and story. If Jesus did not do what the Bible says he did then the risk is that none of it is true and there is not a Biblical god. It frightens people here to have that possibility.
6days
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It has been clarified many times.
Do you have trouble reading history books if the author uses a figure of speech? Generally it is pretty simple reading any type of literature to determine what is poetic, literal history, geology, prophecy, songs, parables, etc
6days
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Straw man
6days
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The reason the stories are consistent and match is because of divine inspiration