How old is the universe? How old is the earth?
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Evolution didn't happen, but is it possible?
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How old is the universe? How old is the earth?
There is a three front war happening.
1. The Flesh
2. The Devil
And
3. The World
This argument is the mind of this world's attempt to cause doubt in the mind of the believer with the goal of conformity to the way in which the world thinks.
The natural man (like darwinsky) cannot understand the word of God because the word is spiritually interpreted meaning only the born again human spirit has the capacity to learn scripture.
Back to d 'ski, he was an unbeliever who's natural rejection of God worked its way out thru the flesh to try to discard God's real presence.
Christians who hold to evolutionary theory have conformed to the mind of the world and are losing the war on this front.
1. The Flesh
2. The Devil
And
3. The World
This argument is the mind of this world's attempt to cause doubt in the mind of the believer with the goal of conformity to the way in which the world thinks.
The natural man (like darwinsky) cannot understand the word of God because the word is spiritually interpreted meaning only the born again human spirit has the capacity to learn scripture.
Back to d 'ski, he was an unbeliever who's natural rejection of God worked its way out thru the flesh to try to discard God's real presence.
Christians who hold to evolutionary theory have conformed to the mind of the world and are losing the war on this front.
Ezekiel points out that this planet was a mineral garden that was under satan's dominion. When Satan fell, God flooded the earth causing it to be without form and void.
Then God recreated a garden called Eden and placed man in it. From there Satan usurped man's authority and is now according to scripture the god of this cosmos. Cosmos is the opposite of chaos meaning satan's dominion is a well organized system. That system is at war with God and God's word.
Then God recreated a garden called Eden and placed man in it. From there Satan usurped man's authority and is now according to scripture the god of this cosmos. Cosmos is the opposite of chaos meaning satan's dominion is a well organized system. That system is at war with God and God's word.
Bluecheese
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Evolution is more than credible it is probable. The creationist garbage isn't.
Selaphiel
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If you set up a dichotomy between believing in the theory of evolution and the "word of God" (defined as your literalist reading of the Bible), then there is no word of God. If the literalist reading of the Bible is the only possible reading, then it is false.
Evolution is a a wildly successful theory of science. It does not automatically go away just because someone declares a literalist reading of the Bible to be the word of God.
Luckily, this literalist reading of the Bible is about as historically orthodox as serving bacon wrapped hotdogs and beer on Eid.
oatmeal
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Well, let's see, we have animals that have offspring that are not identical to the parents, yet the same species.
That has been observed by scientists and most humans.
oatmeal
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Well, if you know some figures of speech, you would be able to find them in scripture.
Ie, Jesus used similes to explain greater concepts.
Similes us either "like" or "as" to make a comparison, not a literal comparison but a figurative one.
Matthew 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
A parable is a figure of speech, a parable is an extended simile
Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Matthew 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
God uses many figures of speech throughout His word, when you learn figures of speech, you will be able to recognize them
6days
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Many things have been wildly believed by evolutionists which science has later proven wrong. Christians should not believe things because of popular opinion (as Galileo's Pope did)...but instead we believe the Word of God. Evolutionism is a false belief system that makes atheists out of believers.
God's Word tells us "For in six days, God created....". And during the six days He formed man from the dust and woman from man's side.
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Yes, that is a valid observation. Is that your definition of "evolution"? I also asked for the mechanism that allows for that and a citation to the literature. Care to follow up?
6days
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Sexual selection is one if the many mechanisms... use Google to find citations.
Other mechanisms include natural selection, 'jumping' genes, mutations, adaption etc... All these fit within the Biblical model. .."For in six days, God created..."
Science tells us that those mechanisms are the ones that provide for evolutionary change that leads to different species, genera, etc. What prevents those mechanisms from continuing and providing for the evolution of all living things? Please do not cite the Bible, there is no relationship between your harping on "6 days" and the real world.
6days
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Actually.... science doesn't tell you anything. Science is thepursuit of knowledge and truth. It's the study of data which involves interpretation. Through the scientific method we can study selection, mutations rates, genetic drift etc.
But...science does not tell you that life came from a common ancestry. That is a belief.
Observational science is consistent with God's Word. In the beginning, God created.
badp
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Not to derail my own thread, but what is a "successful theory?"
You can take that up with the NT authors who took it literally.
badp
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This is exactly why I asked the question. If there is a something to prevent evolution from continuing in this way, it would be the final nail in the coffin for evolution as a possibility.
Right now we have the evidence, which clearly indicates common descent did not occur. It's irrational and unscientific to believe in evolution, but a lot of people make their living off of it, so it's not just going to go away because of a few pesky facts.
Greg Jennings
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And we have another victim of not understanding the crucial differences between a theory and a scientific theory.
I'm stunned.
Greg Jennings
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No. Just meth
Greg Jennings
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Has species change been observed?