Evangelicals Made a Bad Bargain With Trump

Stripe

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Whatever. Same stupid arguments. :chuckle: Still most of your time's been spent in politics lately, and watching you scrabbling around like you know what you're talking about has provided me no small amount of amusement. :)

I'm desperate to convince Americans that by whatever means we must not have four more years of George...

...Lopez.
 

Arthur Brain

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Speaking of grips, joebiden wants to ban all online sales of weapons and accessories, plus other measures that would curtail the ability of a man to arm himself to shoot bad guys.

Good. America's gun laws need alterations already and that's a start. Go play some rugby or something.
 

annabenedetti

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Evangelical leaders are a reliable clientele for the Trump hotel in Washington

President Trump’s Washington hotel, where the average guest pays about $650 per night, has served as an epicenter of conservative politics during his administration.

And among its high-profile visitors are the president’s evangelical advisers, according to records obtained by The Washington Post. They include James Dobson, a co-founder of Focus on the Family; John Hagee, head of Christians United for Israel; and evangelist Franklin Graham. The historic building that includes the old post office and clock tower completed in 1899 has also hosted several high-profile religious events since Trump took office as well as less formal gathering, such as meetings of the president’s unofficial group of faith advisers.

It’s unclear how much evangelical leaders have spent at the hotel in total in the past four years, but they are a reliable clientele for the hotel, which has been struggling financially and was running about half empty even before the coronavirus pandemic began. Asked how they came to stay there, they offered a variety of answers, ranging from convenience to social comfort.

Jerry Falwell Jr.,

Robert Jeffress,

J.D. Greear, president of the Southern Baptist Convention,

Tennessee megachurch pastor Steve Gaines,

Bill Dallas... who organized a high-profile gathering of nearly 1,000 evangelical leaders with Trump before his election in 2016,

Hagee,

Dobson

Graham

Pastors who stay in luxury hotels might get a variety of reactions from parishioners who often pay their salaries and cover their travel expense, said Rusty Leonard, who founded a group called Stewardship Partners and has been a financial watchdog of many evangelical ministries. “A pastor’s need to stay in a five-star hotel probably isn’t the highest need in the world,” Leonard said. For many churches, which do not have to file 990s like other tax-exempt organizations, Leonard says there can be less oversight over finances.

But followers of prosperity gospel, which teaches that God will bless followers with health and wealth, might want Florida megachurch pastor Paula White, a friend of Trump’s who stays in the hotel, to stay in a nice place. “Prosperity theology has to be demonstrated by the preacher and people soak it up. They aspire to live the same kind of life,” Leonard said. “If you stay at the Hampton Inn, they might say, ‘What’s gotten into her?’”

While some might question the extravagance, others will see it as part of a bigger strategy toward power and influence in Washington, said John Fea, a historian at Messiah College, a Christian college in Pennsylvania. “You want to have a story to tell your congregation to show how important you are, to show you have the ear of power,” he said. “It sends a message that these are people who are part of the power elite in the country. They are shaping the president’s agenda in some ways.”

Some evangelical leaders likened being there to feeling part of the club. Falwell referred to it as ‘an oasis” for conservatives. He mentioned seeing former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani there once. White, who oversees Trump’s Faith and Opportunity Initiative at the White House; author and radio host Eric Metaxas; and Gary Bauer, a Trump appointed commissioner on the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, have also been spotted there. (They declined to comment on their visits to the hotel.)
 

Stripe

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Good. America's gun laws need alterations already and that's a start.
Feel free to share joebiden's vision for guns with Americans. :thumb:

The media are avoiding that topic like the plague.

:think:

Wait. Poor choice of words... :noid:

Go play some rugby or something.

Training was last night. :thumb:
 

ok doser

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... most of your time's been spent in politics lately, and watching you scrabbling around like you know what you're talking about has provided me no small amount of amusement. :)

funny, I've felt the exact same way about Joe Biden for 47 years :chuckle:
 

Arthur Brain

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Feel free to share joebiden's vision for guns with Americans. :thumb:

The media are avoiding that topic like the plague.

:think:

Wait. Poor choice of words... :noid:



Training was last night. :thumb:

Well, a poor choice of words is hardly very surprising where it comes to you at the best of times Stripe...

I hope gun laws in America are changed because they need to be. Far too many people have died already because of laxity.

Training was last night? Hope you wore masks and sanitized...
 

annabenedetti

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And... the religion forum is dead. One thread was active today, chrys' thread, and that was this morning. Literally not another post there all day.

Maybe they were raptured.
 

annabenedetti

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"They don’t care if he's a good person—they care that he's a warrior for everything at odds with the elite opinion of the day… which now includes them."

Ben Domenech, publisher of The Federalist
 
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