Well, this place really has become its sad little little echo chamber for trolls, conspiracy theorists and the unhinged nowadays
Sad to see a forum devolve
so much considering what it once was and the vibrant traffic it used to have and also the considered debate back then amid the heated kind.
Thank you Knight for creating this forum and sorry it's turned into such a slurry after your departure.
Do the honours and bring the perma ban down on me as you have with User Name @JudgeRightly.
Sad to see it go downhill so much but everything has it's time and TOL's was up a while ago in fairness. Enjoy your echo chamber!
Leftists have no idea why the leftist global agenda is so bad.Well, this place really has become its sad little little echo chamber for trolls, conspiracy theorists and the unhinged nowadays. Sad to see a forum devolve so much considering what it once was and the vibrant traffic it used to have and also the considered debate back then amid the heated kind. Thank you Knight for creating this forum and sorry it's turned into such a slurry after your departure.
Do the honours and bring the perma ban down on me as you have with User Name @JudgeRightly.
Sad to see it go downhill so much but everything has it's time and TOL's was up a while ago in fairness. Enjoy your echo chamber!
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
@User Name joined the banned, and he was hoping you'd join them as their drummer.Do the honours and bring the perma ban down on me as you have with User Name
He got banned because the staff were tired of constantly cleaning up after him. He would come in and troll member's threads.Except it hasn't.
TOL is the same. Sorry you feel differently?
Forums get old eventually. TOL is no exception.
It didn't.
I'm not the one who banned him. @Sherman is.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
He got banned because the staff were tired of constantly cleaning up after him. He would come in and troll member's threads.
Yes.
It was banned because he trolled. You and Arthur are still here because you behave respectfully. He did not.
He was a trollHe brought reality to the conspiracy-addled and facts to the propaganda peddlers, election deniers, antivaxxers, insurrectionist fellow travelers, Q-nuts, theocrats, dominionists, bigots, xenophobes, and Putin-loving hypocrites. C'est la guerre.
Course it has. This place always wore conservative bias on its sleeve but it wasn't a haven for conspiracy nuts and all of the bonkers stuff that's prevalent here nowadays. You weren't about on this forum seventeen years ago so how would you know what it was like?! It's not the same at all and it encouraged opposition as that's what a healthy and vibrant forum does. It doesn't reduce itself to an echo chamber and ban those who don't go along with the 'status quo'. Knight, the founder himself declared that he was unhappy with the way the forum had gone and took a good measure of blame himself a few years ago so you're just wrong on that score. It's no wonder he doesn't come back here anymore as it's unrecognizable in relation to what it was. Apologies for assuming it was you who banned UN but don;t kid yourself that this forum is the same as when it was in its prime. It's not even a shadow. There's no 'door' to either hit or miss JR but you pretend as you will.Except it hasn't.
TOL is the same. Sorry you feel differently?
Forums get old eventually. TOL is no exception.
It didn't.
I'm not the one who banned him. @Sherman is.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
And the actual wingnuts and trolls have their little playground. Sad to see but c’est la vie.He brought reality to the conspiracy-addled and facts to the propaganda peddlers, election deniers, antivaxxers, insurrectionist fellow travelers, Q-nuts, theocrats, dominionists, bigots, xenophobes, and Putin-loving hypocrites. C'est la guerre.
it wasn't a haven for conspiracy nuts
all of the bonkers stuff that's prevalent here nowadays.
It's not the same at all
it encouraged opposition as that's what a healthy and vibrant forum does.
It doesn't reduce itself to an echo chamber
[It doesn't] ban those who don't go along with the 'status quo'.
Knight, the founder himself declared that he was unhappy with the way the forum had gone and took a good measure of blame himself a few years ago so you're just wrong on that score.
It's no wonder he doesn't come back here anymore as it's unrecognizable in relation to what it was.
don't kid yourself that this forum is the same as when it was in its prime.
It's not even a shadow. There's no 'door' to either hit or miss JR but you pretend as you will.
Pffft, election deniers? Q-Anuts? TGP and far right wing media propaganda sites routinely linked to? This sort of thing was well on the sidelines years ago and conspiracy quackery was frowned upon. A conservative site this may have been but it didn't promote the extreme fringe far right elements that have been commonplace here for a while.Still isn't.
Which is few and far in between.
In some ways it is. In other ways it isn't.
Still does.
Which TOL is not.
Which TOL does not.
TOL was already on a downward trend of overall users long before Knight left.
I think you're forgetting the fact that Knight had/has a life outside of TOL, and when it came down to it, he decided to focus on his life, rather than TOL. Hence the (eventual) handover to BEL, et al, which I WAS around for.
Never said it was.
Just that overall, TOL is the same place.
Usually, "Enjoy your X" is said as a parting shot, so I assumed you were leaving the forum for good.
Was I incorrect to assume so?
Pffft, election deniers? Q-Anuts? TGP and far right wing media propaganda sites routinely linked to? This sort of thing was well on the sidelines years ago and conspiracy quackery was frowned upon. A conservative site this may have been but it didn't promote the extreme fringe far right elements that have been commonplace here for a while.
It's not the same at all JR and you don't know what the place was like years back cos you weren't even here. So don't pretend otherwise.
Nah, it doesn't, not in the same way at all. So many people have been banned who were regulars on here for years and suddenly given the perma boot. UN is just the latest case.
You can assume anything you like JR. Still doesn't make doors magically appear.
I've been here since 2006 so you've little clue as to when TOL was at it's peak in terms of traffic, vibrancy and forum membership.XD
I've been here since 2015.
As stated, UN was trolling, and we (TOL Staff) were getting tired of cleaning up after him, so he got the boot.
If you have a problem with that, take it up with Sherman.
So are you leaving or not?