Do you obey Jesus?

[Jacob]

"I have no problem with these commands, as I told you before. When they apply to me...Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles that Gentiles do not need to obey Him?"-Jacob

Are you referencing a specific post here? Which post are you referring to? Is there a command you think I have a problem with?

You are a habitual liar, or, on pot-no other option.

john w, I am not on pot so either you are accusing me of being a liar or you have no other way (that you can think of) to (try to) say what you are trying/wanting to say.

I don't understand why you would accuse me of being a habitual liar. Does it help for me to address that you have said this about me? How would you like me to proceed? How can we solve what doesn't make sense to you about me?

 

[john w]

john w, I am not on pot so either you are accusing me of being a liar or you have no other way (that you can think of) to (try to) say what you are trying/wanting to say.

"This thread was only about what Jesus has commanded, which can be discussed, and specifically our obedience to His commands. Some people obey Jesus and some do not. Do you obey Jesus?"-you

Quite irrelevant, including whether I "obey Jesus." You, not me, "argued:"





"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob


"This is not lying."-You

Yes it is-the above-"all of" his commands...

Vs.


"I have no problem with these commands, as I told you before. When they apply to me...Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles that Gentiles do not need to obey Him?..."-Jacob

You are a habitual liar, or, on pot-no other option.

I don't understand why you would accuse me of being a habitual liar. Does it help for me to address that you have said this about me? How would you like me to proceed? How can we solve what doesn't make sense to you about me?

You must be on pot, or you are a habitual liar-all sane members of TOL, can see, below, that you are lying:


"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob


"This is not lying."-You

Yes it is-the above-"all of" his commands...

Vs.


"I have no problem with these commands, as I told you before. When they apply to me...Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles that Gentiles do not need to obey Him?..."-Jacob

 

[Jacob]

"This thread was only about what Jesus has commanded, which can be discussed, and specifically our obedience to His commands. Some people obey Jesus and some do not. Do you obey Jesus?"-you

Quite irrelevant, including whether I "obey Jesus." You, not me, "argued:"





"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob


"This is not lying."-You

Yes it is-the above-"all of" his commands...

Vs.


"I have no problem with these commands, as I told you before. When they apply to me...Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles that Gentiles do not need to obey Him?..."-Jacob

You are a habitual liar, or, on pot-no other option.



You must be on pot, or you are a habitual liar-all sane members of TOL, can see, below, that you are lying:


"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob


"This is not lying."-You

Yes it is-the above-"all of" his commands...

Vs.


"I have no problem with these commands, as I told you before. When they apply to me...Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles that Gentiles do not need to obey Him?..."-Jacob

How would they not apply to me john w? I am arguing with you that they do apply to me.

 

[john w]

How would they not apply to me john w? I am arguing with you that they do apply to me.

"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob

Again-fine-leave all you have, sell all you have.


Let me guess: That does not apply to you, and "all" does not really mean "all."

 

[patrick jane]

"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob

Again-fine-leave all you have, sell all you have.




Let me guess: That does not apply to you, and "all" does not really mean "all."

Obey your thirst

 

[heir]

How would they not apply to me john w? I am arguing with you that they do apply to me.

How could any apply to you when we live in the but now where the rigteousness of God without the law is manifested?

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:


The questions then that are in need of answering are:

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

and

If so, how did you get it?

 

[Jacob]

"I believe all of His commands are to be obeyed.....Therefore I conclude that as a Jew all of God's commands are for me,..I can't think of one command that does not apply to me, so saying I should obey all of them makes sense to me. ."-Jacob

Again-fine-leave all you have, sell all you have.


Let me guess: That does not apply to you, and "all" does not really mean "all."

Incorrect.

 

[Jacob]

How could any apply to you when we live in the but now where the rigteousness of God without the law is manifested?

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

The questions then that are in need of answering are:

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

ans

If so, how did you get it?

I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Are you talking about personal righteousness, practical righteousness, positional righteousness, or imputed righteousness?

 

[Jacob]

James says if you break one command you are guilty of all....[James always agrees with Paul]

James and Paul say nothing even hinting that anyone should break any one command.

 

[heir]

I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Are you talking about personal righteousness, practical righteousness, positional righteousness, or imputed righteousness?

Well, since you have none of your own (Romans 3:10-12 KJV) and the passage (Romans 3:21-22 KJV) speaks of the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ: the questions remain the same:

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

and

If so, how did you get it?

 

[Jacob]

Well, since you have none of your own (Romans 3:10-12 KJV) and the passage (Romans 3:21-22 KJV) speaks of the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ: the questions remain the same:

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

and

If so, how did you get it?

All four of the categories of righteousness I mentioned are in God and Jesus.

 

[heir]

All four of the categories of righteousness I mentioned are in God and Jesus.

Can you answer the simple questions I posed to you?

 

[Jacob]

Can you answer the simple questions I posed to you?

I did. It was God and Jesus.

 

[heir]

I did. It was God and Jesus.

No, you didn't and you know it. Try again.

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

and

If so, how did you get it?

 

[Jacob]

No, you didn't and you know it. Try again.

Do you have the righteousness of God upon you?

and

If so, how did you get it?

I'm not using the word upon. I don't know what doctrine that is. I answered that I have righteousness in God and Jesus. That is the only way you can have true righteousness in any of these areas or categories of righteousness.

 

[heir]

I'm not using the word upon. I don't know what doctrine that is.

That's odd. It's right there in the verse.

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

I answered that I have righteousness in God and Jesus.

I don't know what that means. How did you get it?

 

[heir]

I'm not using the word upon. I don't know what doctrine that is. I answered that I have righteousness in God and Jesus. That is the only way you can have true righteousness in any of these areas or categories of righteousness.

And to be clear, there is only ONE WAY to get the righteousness of God! I'm trying to give you the opportunity to tell me how that is. It's right there in the passage!

 

[heir]

Rather vague question, as he gave different commands when he walked this filthy earth than he did from heaven through Paul.

Amen to that!

 

[Jacob]

That's odd. It's right there in the verse.

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:


I don't know what that means. How did you get it?

I see the word upon in this verse.

The righteousness that is imputed to believers is on account of what God did in Jesus when He died for you. Is that the righteousness of God that you are talking about?

 

[heir]

I see the word upon in this verse.

The righteousness that is imputed to believers is on account of what God did in Jesus when He died for you. Is that the righteousness of God that you are talking about?

Yes, the righteousness of God which is by faith OF Jesus Christ. Do you have it? And if so, how did you get it?