Director of X-MEN named a boy-molester predator...

Nazaroo

New member
Weren't you talking about him when you said:



. . .or were you just posting something off topic in your own thread?

There is certainly no evidence that he is a "criminal".

You obviously don't understand what legal evidence means.

(1) Testimony IS evidence. The accusers already submitted testimony
to civil courts to begin filing proceedings.

(2) I used 'criminals' plural, and didn't specify any names.

That means No slander DUMB*SS.

You've disproved your own claim.

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Can you get even stupider?


I'm hoping so.
 

Nazaroo

New member
followed later by:



The first forum rule is:



1. Thou SHALL NOT use profanity or insinuated profanity on this forum. Crass potty humor is also discouraged here at TOL.



:think:


Close, but no cigar.


A dumb*ss is another name for a donkey.
Yes its an insult on your intelligence.

For you to mistake it for profanity shows you're a dumb*ss.

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shagster01

New member

Close, but no cigar.


A dumb*ss is another name for a donkey.
Yes its an insult on your intelligence.

For you to mistake it for profanity shows you're a dumb*ss.

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It certainly is not. The term for donkey does not have the word "dumb" attached to it without a space. And if it was, why the "*" instead of an "a"?
 

Lighthouse

The Dark Knight
Gold Subscriber
Hall of Fame
Should this be a surprise, when the LGBT agenda was
basically the whole theme behind X-MEN?





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Hollywood pedophile parties: Symptom of a rampant disease feeding on innocent children



DALLAS, May 15, 2014 — X-Men director Bryan Singer is accused of being involved in a series of pedophile parties where young boys were molested. Along with Singer, producer Gary Goddard, former Disney exec David Neuman and executive Garth Ancier are alleged to have been involved in the targeting and victimization of young boys.
The accusations against Singer emerged when Michael Egan, a former child actor and model, filed civil suits against Singer, Goddard, Neuman and Ancier. Egan told the New York Post that during the 1990’s, he and other young boys were treated “like pieces of meat at sex parties.” His attorney Jeff Herman has stated that since filing suit, he has been contacted by other victims who have broken their silence in the hopes of saving the next child from suffering as they have.
The New York Post also reports Egan’s mother previously reported the abuse to the LAPD and FBI and no action was taken.

Singer and the others named by Egan have has vehemently denied the accusations against them.

Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/life/ho...-innocent-children-17588/#oLkFGg0DBaHKeQmU.99


This news is over a year old. It was already discussed here, when it first broke.
 

Nazaroo

New member
Weren't you talking about him when you said:



. . .or were you just posting something off topic in your own thread?

There is certainly no evidence that he is a "criminal".


Lets get this straight for the record:

You are claiming that

(1) the Director of X-MEN, , although he was named a boy-molester
just like the thread title says, (which clearly means its an appropriate title)
is entirely innocent of boy-molesting.

This is quite different than "innocent until proven guilty" or
the presumption of innocence for a particular crime, in a criminal case.

(2) You are claiming there is no evidence against the Director of X-MEN,
even though there was clear evidence presented by the accuser,
which is legal evidence and was entered into the US court system in a lawsuit.

(3) You yourself are claiming I falsely accused him of child-molesting,
without any evidence. Suppose I had accused him of child-molesting:
That is precisely what both the civil and criminal courts allow
as perfectly legal, and exactly how charges and lawsuits are brought forward.
Its the ONLY legal avenue to open a case, unless the police
independently charge someone with an offence.

So I would say that since making an accusation to someone is always
the very first step for a victim or witness to perform in order to activate
the legal system, it can't be immoral or illegal to do so,
nor can it be illegal or immoral to report those events.

The legal system also allows accusers, witnesses and victims to stop at
any time, refuse to testify, or drop lawsuits independently and settle out
of court. Since this is legal, (and is the ONLY legal way to end a suit),
it can't be immoral or illegal to do so,
and it can't be illegal or immoral to report on it in the public interest.

Although accusing someone may open any accuser, witness, or victim to
counter charges or counter-lawsuits, which is also perfectly legal,
it can't be illegal or immoral to accuse someone of a crime.

It is only illegal or immoral to bear false witness in an actual court case,
or to commit some form of slander or libel against someone, if it can
be shown that the accusations were both untrue and damaging.

Since none of those cases apply here, I submit that:

(1) I haven't claimed Bryan Singer was found guilty in a criminal or civil court
of the charges (child molestation).

(2) I haven't claimed to be a witness in any allegations.

(3) I myself haven't been found guilty of slander or libel,
or any other malicious or false statements in regard to anyone.

(4) You have no evidence at all that I have done anything immoral or illegal,
in reporting the facts and allegations and the EVIDENCE regarding this case.


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I also submit that:


(1) You don't understand the purpose and scope of the "Presumption of Innocence".

(2) You don't understand the definition of "evidence" legally and morally.

(3) You don't understand the definition of "slander" or "libel".

(4) You don't understand the freedom of the press and the
constitutional right to report to the public court findings and evidence
already in the public domain.


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Finally,
are you seriously claiming that the accused Bryan Singer
in this case was actually innocent of the crimes he has been accused of?


Even if the accuser/victim has withdrawn both the suit and the charges,
and settled out of court or otherwise ended his personal pursuit of justice,
out of shame or terror, some very DAMNING EVIDENCE remains:


(1) Mark Collins Rector, one of the group of pedophiles
that was accused of molesting this actor in question, was convicted
in 2004 of trafficking children across state lines for the purpose of sex.
He's now a registered sex offender



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All the copious evidence so far available suggests that the child-actor
was telling the truth about the parties and the forced sex,
and the homosexual child molestation.

The fact that he abandoned the civil suit out of fear or shame is irrelevant
to the large amount of evidence for the existence of the child-sex ring in question.


Finally, I'd say that obviously Bryan Singer was a close associate of all the named child-molesters,
and that he himself has not denied that this is the case.
He and all the others have been named repeatedly in the criminal cases which
were carried out in court, and are part of the evidence entered into the public record.


 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
Your repeating an accusation which has not been corroborated and withdrawn since.

The essence of the title is accusatory and publicly repeats a highly offensive claim, which to all intents and purposes has been found to be untrue.

What you have done is position a fact in away to create a title which is untrue but suits you agenda.

In which way do you think your agenda is forwarded by behaving in a manner which can only be describing as dishonest?

Another illiterate slob.

The titled doesn't declare him guilty.

It states a historical fact.

Learn to read.

Director of X-MEN named a boy-molester predator...
 

Nazaroo

New member
... a highly offensive claim, which to all intents and purposes has been found to be untrue.

This is a false statement.

A correct statement would be:

a highly offensive claim, which to all intents and purposes has been found to be unproven, in a criminal court, so far.

The point is, even when criminal courts find someone "not guilty"
it does not prove them not guilty of the crime.
The court proves instead that there is insufficient evidence to find guilt.

Even when a court reverses a conviction, the person is not "innocent",
but rather "not [found] guilty".

The important legal notions and the moral notions are again being blurred
by your stupidity.

your [sic] claiming guilt by association now?

Not at all.

The guilt is obvious because a criminal court, which has a higher standard
of proof (i.e., beyond reasonable doubt) than a mere civil court (at 51% preponderance of evidence), found the stories and descriptions and other
evidence provided by eyewitnesses were not just consistent with,
but corroborated the story described by the victim about the accused.

The reason the accused wasn't "found guilty" in those criminal cases,
was because other people were on trial, and not the person of interest here.

The findings in the trial that put away one pedophile would have
been more than enough to bring new charges against the person of interest.

However, ...

The main reason that the accused person here has not been charged,
is not that there is any lack of evidence which would secure a conviction,
but because the Statute of Limitations has run out.
 
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