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We observe animals reproducing after their kind with some variation. They have the ability to adapt to their environment, within limits. One's that adapt well, live. Other's that don't, may die off.
Thank you. Agreed. Now explain how the limits function over time.
 

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Consider dog breeds and the variation from Chihuahua to Great Dane from Terrier to Saint Bernard. Has a dog breed ever been developed into something other than dog?
Interesting. What do you make of the fact that donkeys and horses can reproduce despite different numbers of chromosomes?

What about the fact that Chimpanzees and bonobos have interbred several times since their populations split a few million years ago, and the bonobo genome also carries DNA that seems to have come from a third, unidentified species.
 

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Interesting. What do you make of the fact that donkeys and horses can reproduce despite different numbers of chromosomes?
Why is this any sort of a problem?
What about the fact that Chimpanzees and bonobos have interbred several times since their populations split a few million years ago, and the bonobo genome also carries DNA that seems to have come from a third, unidentified species.
There is no such thing as "a few million years". You seemed to want to talk science, but then you go off to philosophical beliefs instead.
 

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Why is this any sort of a problem?
Well, sir, it is a problem for the resulting mules who cannot produce viable embryos.

It is also indicative of the edge of a speciation, perhaps.
There is no such thing as "a few million years". You seemed to want to talk science, but then you go off to philosophical beliefs instead.
You seem to try to flip the script here. I will give you a list of evidence that shows life and earth is very old-- if that could help you.
 

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Well, sir, it is a problem for the resulting mules who cannot produce viable embryos.

It is also indicative of the edge of a speciation, perhaps.
Degradation of the existing genome is not progress.
You seem to try to flip the script here. I will give you a list of evidence that shows life and earth is very old-- if that could help you.
You can try, but it won't be a scientific argument.
 
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Degradation of the existing genome is not progress.
Take away point: the horse and the donkey have a common ancestor from the not so distant past. What is your alternate explanation for their relationship?

Researchers have documented speciation events in plants, insects and worms. They subjected organisms to various types of selection—for anatomical differences, mating behaviors, habitat preferences and other traits—and found that they had created populations of organisms that did not breed with outsiders.
You can try, but it won't be a scientific argument.
You have accepted a different notion of science that is self-serving to your cause. I do recommend you recalibrate or you will find yourself mired in logical quandaries.
 

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Take away point: the horse and the donkey have a common ancestor from the not so distant past. What is your alternate explanation for their relationship?
If you look at the history of this topic as it has been discussed on this forum, I'm afraid that you will find you are beating a dead horse here.
 

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Take away point: the horse and the donkey have a common ancestor from the not so distant past. What is your alternate explanation for their relationship?
All of God's created kinds have a common ancestor.
The idea of a single common ancestor for all life is a myth.
Researchers have documented speciation events in plants, insects and worms. They subjected organisms to various types of selection—for anatomical differences, mating behaviors, habitat preferences and other traits—and found that they had created populations of organisms that did not breed with outsiders.
The created kinds branching out is not a problem for the Creation Model.
You have accepted a different notion of science that is self-serving to your cause.
False accusation, also known as lying.
I do recommend you recalibrate or you will find yourself mired in logical quandaries.
Hilarious. I have no problem with real science, I reject your pseudo-science.
 

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I asked @Lawson:


Lawson: <NO ANSWER>

It's a Yes or No question, Professor Poser.

Did a non-human ever give birth to a human? Yes or No?
This question is semantically loaded so the only correct answer can be yes and no. It depends. You have to define human vs non-human then I will give you a crisp answer to your liking, but be forewarned your tone is of the niggling variety. Niggling leads others to not only dislike what you say, but to dislike and avoid you. I am susceptible to average human sensibilities.
 
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