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Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

Skeeter

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And, then when bones of a suspected common ancestor of dolphins and hippos is found, what a great party there will be.
 

Derf

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And, then when bones of a suspected common ancestor of dolphins and hippos is found, what a great party there will be.
Because you have so little evidence currently? That's called "faith", and it should make you question your presuppositions.
 

Skeeter

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Because you have so little evidence currently? That's called "faith", and it should make you question your presuppositions.
They did find some teeth of a hippo ancestor Epirigenys lokonensis that are similar to dolphin teeth. Here, the gross morphology between the dolphin and hippopotamus is not readily apparent, but internal structures help us see a potential connection along side the obvious DNA connection.

It is not faith, it is a hypothesis among many.
 

Derf

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They did find some teeth of a hippo ancestor Epirigenys lokonensis that are similar to dolphin teeth. Here, the gross morphology between the dolphin and hippopotamus is not readily apparent, but internal structures help us see a potential connection along side the obvious DNA connection.

It is not faith, it is a hypothesis among many.
If your currently available evidence were strong, then why do you predict such a party when more evidence is found. If you're searching for truth rather than for confirmation of a particular theory (with specific epistemological implications), you should rejoice over any progress--not just for those that you think confirm your viewpoint. I didn't see much rejoicing when dinosaur soft tissue was found, or when radiocarbon was found in diamonds and other objects too old to have it.
 

Skeeter

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If your currently available evidence were strong, then why do you predict such a party when more evidence is found. If you're searching for truth rather than for confirmation of a particular theory (with specific epistemological implications), you should rejoice over any progress--not just for those that you think confirm your viewpoint. I didn't see much rejoicing when dinosaur soft tissue was found, or when radiocarbon was found in diamonds and other objects too old to have it.
When two lines of research converge it is extra fun. This is a human thing.
 

Clete

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But, it was exciting when we corroborated earlier theories about dolphins being more related to hippopotamus than sharks via DNA similarity.
Question begging nonsense!

Evolution cannot account for the existence of either dolphins, hippos or DNA and yet you attempt to use all three as evidence for it. Just the exact opposite of sound reason, never mind any sort science.
 

Skeeter

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Kinda like how a car and a tricycle both have instructions for how to attach an axle?
When the base instructions are exactly the same for two structures, that is amazing. Not true for the bike and car. btw.
 

Idolater

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But, it was exciting when we corroborated earlier theories about dolphins being more related to hippopotamus than sharks via DNA similarity.
Well they're both mammals. Why wouldn't you think mammalian DNA would be more similar to another mammalian DNA than to a fish's DNA? Or did you 'flip-flop' what you were trying to say?
 

Skeeter

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Well they're both mammals. Why wouldn't you think mammalian DNA would be more similar to another mammalian DNA than to a fish's DNA? Or did you 'flip-flop' what you were trying to say?
Up until the 17th century whales and dolphins were considered fish because they looked like fish. Internal structures and DNA shows us that despite their out look, the y have more in common with mammals. Before DNA was mapped we hypothesized that there was a land mammal ancester of both sea mammals and land animals. The structure and sequence of the DNA supports this.

Hope this helps.
 

Skeeter

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Again, you make wild assumptions.
What makes you think that they are "pelvic bones" in the first place? (hint: evolution on the brain).
Compare some skeletons and get back to us on what you think.

Interestingly, whale pelvic bones are not simply vestigial as once thought; they appear to help with birthing process.
 

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Up until the 17th century whales and dolphins were considered fish because they looked like fish. Internal structures and DNA shows us that despite their out look, the y have more in common with mammals. Before DNA was mapped we hypothesized that there was a land mammal ancester of both sea mammals and land animals. The structure and sequence of the DNA supports this.

Hope this helps.
  • When you say "we hypothesized", you are simply following with the "evolutionary" view.
  • DNA is extremely complex and there are many ways to compare it that give differing results. We do not get a "complete evolutionary tree" by comparing DNA. Evolutionists have an extremely biased view of how to compare DNA but aren't afraid to make gross assumptions to attempt to support their "theory".
 
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