and a hypocrite as well :nono:
Criticizing Lawyers, Teachers & Dating
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and a hypocrite as well :nono:
Why?
Sod's just smarting from TH's calling him out on the "supposed lawyer" comment. He'll get over it, if everyone ignores him.
Because you're quote mining from Job.
If you're gonna do that, you've gotta take the rest of the Bible.
barbie demonstrates projection:
That was very good barbie.
Now, did you have anything to say regarding the thread topic or were you just trolling?
That was very good barbie.
Now, did you have anything to say regarding the thread topic or were you just trolling?
:AMR:
God gave the law to teach us. He made laws like Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not commit adultery and Do not commit perjury in order to teach us the value of human life, that we are specially created and distinct from the animals, that our possessions and money are rightly ours and that human relationships should be strictly protected from perversion.
You are trying to defend a definition of "the law" that is completely separated from biblical concepts.
Yours is a man-made construct and will be burnt up with many people still fiercely clinging to it.
OK.
A court has no right to show grace.
He's probably gay as well. :flamer:
Grouping the last two in is a mischaracterization. Myself and Lighthouse only have issue with how you treat people on the forum. You are an embarrassment to conservative Christians.
The line warranted it.
Rather, I was defending our legal system against your monosyllabic and utterly unsupportable description of it.
I think the law was given to us to demonstrate our willful insufficiency and the sufficiency of Christ. It accomplished that.
I also noted, among the numerous points you failed to address, that there's no reason to believe the man who did these horrible things did so out of ignorance.
Rather, I responded to your very specific one word descriptions of the legal system I've practiced in. And your descriptions were without support or argument. They remain so in the face of my answers.
I think that's a great deal of nonsense. It isn't a religious code or a substitute for moral responsibility. It also isn't any of the descriptives you heaped upon it without supportive fact, as I continue to note.
Our legal system allows for mitigation. It also allows for pardon. Though it isn't intended to, I think that reflects Christ's attitude toward those who put the letter above the spirit of the law.
Really?
I don't remember.
I remember being pretty hard on Lighthouse at the time, and the likes of Aikey, skreppie, PureX...
remember the emoticon we had for PureX? :chuckle:
At the time I was posting on a couple much more rough and tumble sites populated mainly by atheists, homo's, pornographers and other God-haters and I often found it difficult to dial it back when I came here.
I had fun as koban but I'm not that guy anymore.
I've been resurrected as some other dude.
Seriously though, I've gotten a lot more serious about my walk with Christ in the past few years and have decided to leave much of that behind me.
For those actions of mine in the past that caused friction between us, I apologize.
:noid: I was pretty sure that all four were mischaracterizations.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Are you certain that you speak for all of conservative Christianity?
"Evil" has two syllables.
A system that releases criminals expecting a collar and debt to protect society is evil.
What you think doesn't change what the bible says. And what you say here doesn't contradict what the bible says. The bible says the law is to teach.
Are you going to disagree?
Tell God. He said it.
It doesn't have the right to withhold justice. Telling me it does is just to admit it is evil.
I love it when people defeat their own arguments. :up:
Men are not authorised to catch and release murderers and rapists. It is perverse to pretend that in doing so your system is somehow godly.
Wow. That's cool, mate.
I'm a meat Popsicle.
I stand corrected on the point. Your overwhelmingly monosyllabic, but not entirely monosyllabic responses to our legal system.
Nope. You aren't a criminal here because you're charged with a crime. You're a criminal when and if you're convicted of being one.
And what you declare doesn't alter the truth of what I've said or give your criticism of our system any legs.
Certainly Biblical law was meant to and so can our law, but that doesn't touch the fact that you can't establish this man acted the way he did out of ignorance. People violated the OT law. A man can understand and still act against his understanding. Happens all the time.
No, he didn't. You need to quote me in context. I'll never call the word of God nonsense. But I find your description just that on the point.
Who said it withheld justice? Whoever did would have to make the case. Feel free to do that.
I didn't say it withheld justice. You're making an unsupported claim and building on it before you lay a foundation of fact and/or argument/reason.
There's nothing unjust about mitigation. In fact, it would be unjust to punish a man rushing his wife to the hospital who is caught speeding as you would someone having a race for the fun of it. I think Christ spoke to that. Is man made for the Sabbath or the Sabbath for man?
Then you must be weeping. I'm never surprised when people more accustomed to declaring than arguing conflate that practice with a point.
I don't believe people convicted of premeditated murder or rape or child molestation should ever be released back into society. But our government isn't an extension of the OT or any sort of religious instrument.
I haven't said it's godly. I said that your series of one word descriptions was without foundation and wrong. I illustrated the insufficiency and argued the points.
You've declared away in response and shifted the focus, which seems to be your meat.
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Thanks Stripe - I think so too.
It's changed a lot in my approach to life, here and in the real world.
Yes, you so obviously want nothing to do with me.
And it's hysterical all right. Just wait until I misplace a comma.You might have an aneurysm.
lain:Actually I was not quote mining from anything. "Taking the bad with the good" is simply a generic statement. If it is from Job, I was unaware of that. Pastor Bob and his science guys love to quote mine and cite those they quote mine from, including Bierce, as if they approve that person. My comment simply suggested that their reliance of Bierce was perhaps misplaced.