Creationists stumped by new hominid fossils

CherubRam

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Um.....what? This is "Ida" (Darwinius)...


Homo-Naledi.jpg


So if H. naledi is "more ape" than Darwinius, I guess that means humans are "more ape" than Darwinius too. :chuckle:

I have seen people alive today that look like this above picture.
 

CherubRam

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It's actually nothing new. Scientists also claim that they found Neanderthal genes in humans, as a result of interbreeding instead of evolution. On the other hand, if interbreeding between humans and other species existed, the theory of a common ancestor becomes a joke.

The Dead Sea Scrolls say that Noah was the first white man born, and that he had blue eyes. Before then, people only had brown eyes. I think Evolutionist do not like the fact that white men came from the darker skinned peoples.
 

Interplanner

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I laughed heartily at fumbling creationist attempts to reconcile their hilarious views of natural history with reality.

Humans are great apes. Human is a name we call our species, but how many other ancestor or branching species should we call human? That is the only (relatively trivial) question for a proper scientist.

The comedy of creationism comes from the parts of the creationists' conspiracy theory that tells them their sky friend has made them special. They want respectable-sounding sciency words to give that joke idea credibility.

Thanks for the laugh, and keep them coming!

Stuart


So when the eco-socialists take away your property because there are humans ("great apes") that deserve as much as you have, and you are in the top 1% so you're the first target of these environmental justice crusaders, will you say you are "human"?
 

Stuu

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So when the eco-socialists take away your property because there are humans ("great apes") that deserve as much as you have, and you are in the top 1% so you're the first target of these environmental justice crusaders, will you say you are "human"?
That sounds like a bizarre scenario, but I am in favour of the principle of redistributing wealth so people aren't left destitute.

I also try to shop in a way that supports suppliers who aren't destroying the habitats of the other great apes, and I hope you do the same.

Stuart
 

Stuu

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The Dead Sea Scrolls say that Noah was the first white man born, and that he had blue eyes. Before then, people only had brown eyes. I think Evolutionist do not like the fact that white men came from the darker skinned peoples.
What, you mean like the way creationists don't like the fact that they are descended from early monkey species?

I haven't seen you write anything so obviously ridiculous in a long time.

And that's really saying something.

Stuart
 

alwight

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It's actually nothing new. Scientists also claim that they found Neanderthal genes in humans, as a result of interbreeding instead of evolution. On the other hand, if interbreeding between humans and other species existed, the theory of a common ancestor becomes a joke.
:rotfl:
 

CherubRam

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The Dead Sea Scrolls say that Noah was the first white man born, and that he had blue eyes. Before then, people only had brown eyes. I think Evolutionist do not like the fact that white men came from the darker skinned peoples.

CHAPTER CVI.

1. And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son. 2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful†. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright. 3. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and †conversed with† the Lord of righteousness. 4. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah. 5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious. 6. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth. 7. And now, my father, I am here to petition thee and implore thee that thou mayest go to Enoch, our father, and learn from him the truth, for his dwelling-place is amongst the angels.' 8. And when Methuselah heard the words of his son, he came to me to the ends of the earth; for he had heard that I was there, and he cried aloud, and I heard his voice and I came to him. And 1 said unto him: 'Behold, here am I, my son, wherefore hast thou come to me?' 9. And he answered and said: 'Because of a great cause of anxiety have I come to thee, and because of a disturbing vision have I approached. 10. And now, my father, hear me: unto Lamech my son there hath been born a son, the like of whom there is none, and his nature is not like man's nature, and the colour of his body is whiter than snow and redder than the bloom of a rose, and the hair of his head is whiter than white wool, and his eyes are like the rays of the sun, and he opened his eyes and thereupon lighted up the whole house.
 

6days

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And that is more of an ape than H. naledi?

I'm not sure if you intentionally misrepresent what others such such as in the OP... intentionally misrepresent whatever I said? Or, if in your zeal you don't read carefully enough.
But.... you have it backwards from what I said...naledi is more apelike than Ida, who evolutionists promoted as a missing link.
 

6days

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Oh, my mistake then. Sorry 'bout that.
So what do you think H. naledi is?

I don't know what naledi is. If I was to guess, I suppose an extinct ape, based on small brain, but.... I don't know. My position though is the same as it would be for Neandertals after initial discovery.... It is either fully human....or dully animal. There is no such thing as a transition between ape and human.
 

Jose Fly

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I don't know what naledi is. If I was to guess, I suppose an extinct ape, based on small brain, but.... I don't know. My position though is the same as it would be for Neandertals after initial discovery.... It is either fully human....or dully animal. There is no such thing as a transition between ape and human.

Wouldn't you think that if there was absolutely no connection between humans and other primates, there would be a very clear and distinct line between the two, and specimens like this would never exist? Every specimen would be trivially easy to put in the "human" or "ape" group.

Why is God so good to evolutionary scientists and so mean to creationists?
 

Interplanner

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That sounds like a bizarre scenario, but I am in favour of the principle of redistributing wealth so people aren't left destitute.

I also try to shop in a way that supports suppliers who aren't destroying the habitats of the other great apes, and I hope you do the same.

Stuart


I'll give gifts to whom I want; I will never let a spastic like Obama or Kerry or Clinton have it if I can help it.
 

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Wouldn't you think that if there was absolutely no connection between humans and other primates, there would be a very clear and distinct line between the two, and specimens like this would never exist? Every specimen would be trivially easy to put in the "human" or "ape" group.

Why is God so good to evolutionary scientists and so mean to creationists?
Nice assumption.
 

Interplanner

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Wouldn't you think that if there was absolutely no connection between humans and other primates, there would be a very clear and distinct line between the two, and specimens like this would never exist? Every specimen would be trivially easy to put in the "human" or "ape" group.

Why is God so good to evolutionary scientists and so mean to creationists?



There are at least two chapters in Ross CREATION AND TIME documenting the leap in capabilities between previous hominids and mankind. Which is what he believes the creation of man is referring to and verified by. It does not come down to bones. It comes down to activities, abstract thought (and some of that is intended to be evil), useful memory (history), etc.
 
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