Creation vs. Evolution
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6days
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I think you are confusing a few things. Evidence from science supports the creationist model. Rapid speciation is possible because of info that already exists in the genome. For example here is an article about stickleback fish that speciated in just a few generations.alwight said:
http://www.nature.com/news/stickleback-genomes-reveal-path-of-evolution-1.10392
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6days
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Haha... thanks Michael, but its not a problem. Their worldview is being challenged so they are trying to defend their beliefs.
Chicken embryos can be induced to produce teeth by turning on ancient genes, too. Conceivably, a new bird species with teeth could emerge if the environment and ecosystem provided the selection pressure needed to regulate those teeth genes back into use.
You still have to explain how the latent variations got to be in the genome in the first place. I guess you could always cheat again and pull out the faith card. But that wouldn't be an explanation.
Stuart
Maybe you should tell that to 6days, who has just been telling us that natural selection is part of the creationist model.
Stuart
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No, it is just because you are blatantly incompetent. Your reply is a standard defense for people in that position though. Blame everyone else who sees your errors.
6days
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"God saw everything He had made and called it VERY good"MichaelCadry said:
Michael... why would God create something less than perfect?
I think you would agree that God created the processes necessary for animals to survive in our fallen world. In the post flood world, animals would have had to adapt quickly to changing environments.MichaelCadry said:
The book of Genesis tells us that there was no other 'race' before Adam. Believing there were people before Adam, or that people were on other planets, seems destroys the Gospel .message.MichaelCadry said:
The Bible tells us that sin and death did not exist until after Adams sin. There was not even animal death. You will notice the Bible tells us the animals were vegetarian, until sin entered our world.
We have the genealogies from Adam to Christ. Jesus is called the 2nd Adam in the Bible because He redeems the first Adams descendants.if you try insert other people into the Biblical account, the theology gets messed up and meaningless.
Its OK...I have not always been yec either. But --- you should consider it. Jesus is a YEC! He did tell us that Adam and Eve existed at the beginning of creation.MichaelCadry said:
(Even Darwin is now a YEC
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alwight
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There is plenty of evidence that speciation is occurring all the time, e.g. Google "Ring Species", but typically in the lifetime of humans it is not observable. YECs have recently tried to force-fit a kind of "super-evolution" as their model not because the evidence suggests it, it doesn't, but because they must make the typically gradual process of speciation upon speciation fit somehow into a ludicrously short span of time, else they will have to reject the whole idea of evolution again.
YECs have already tried and failed to dismiss evolution so now they are compelled to try to incorporate it somehow in less than 10,000 years? Pull the other one.
And yet it is a fact of natural history that there never was a time when only two humans existed.
Stuart
6days
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Yes....and?Stu said:
So... chickens may be derived from a bird that had teeth, correct? And through breeding or selection they lost the ability to produce teeth. ( other extinct birds have teeth). But in any case.... how does loss of info support evolutionary model? It certainly fits in the creation model.
Yes, extinction, but not on a whim. And why cancer, etc., you forgot AIDS. There are ways that the Lord has people die so they can rest from their works on earth and begin their works in heaven. Same reason for heart attacks, brain aneurysms, etc. You've got to go some way. I've got cancer myself and won't be around much longer. That is your answer from me.
In God's Wonderful Name,
Michael
Dear 6days,
You are wrong and I'm too tired to retype my explanation. See my Post 1 on this thread. Read it.
God's Best For You,
Michael
You are wrong and I'm too tired to retype my explanation. See my Post 1 on this thread. Read it.
God's Best For You,
Michael
Hedshaker
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Dear 6days,
God created Lucifer and Satan, and they are not perfect. It does not say that "God looked and saw that everything that He had made was perfect." It is written in Genesis 1:31, "And God saw everything that He had made and behold, it was 'very good.'" Not perfect. Very few things are perfect.
May God Bless You For Your Good Mind And Heart!!
Michael
God created Lucifer and Satan, and they are not perfect. It does not say that "God looked and saw that everything that He had made was perfect." It is written in Genesis 1:31, "And God saw everything that He had made and behold, it was 'very good.'" Not perfect. Very few things are perfect.
May God Bless You For Your Good Mind And Heart!!
Michael
Hello Hedshaker,
Wherever have you been? In lots of trouble, I suppose. Good to hear from you again, unless you're going to say something I don't agree with!! ROTFL!!
God Turn You Around,
Michael
Wherever have you been? In lots of trouble, I suppose. Good to hear from you again, unless you're going to say something I don't agree with!! ROTFL!!
God Turn You Around,
Michael
noguru
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There are also penguins that are perfect for swimming, but not perfect for flying in the air or even walking on land.
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