shagster01
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The decision to save your child may not be relative, as I would do the same. But that makes the "wrongness" of killing and innocent man relative.
CNN Anchor: ‘Our Rights Do Not Come From God’
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The decision to save your child may not be relative, as I would do the same. But that makes the "wrongness" of killing and innocent man relative.
Chris Cuomo is one of those people who takes the Constitution literally.
No. One prioritizes. This is the "Gray" area.
i suppose we forget. in the civil war, both sides thought God was on their side. many southerners traced it back to Ham's curse on one of his children from God
Not exactly, unless you mean a general consensus of those empowered to make the rules.
The Golden Rule is always a first rate bit of advice.
Or, that's what our Yankee cousins thought of Native Americans, only there was no one to stop them until that population had been stripped of nearly everything and mostly destroyed.
I suppose pea brained thinking isn't really geographically inspired after all.
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Look out! It's the ghost of Bear Bryant!
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Otherwise, whatever the debate over the origin of right inequity in the protection of it is contrary to any good reason.
Don't bunch up TH.
It was generalized pith imply a select, southern-based group whom championed racial superiority. Present company - obviously - excluded. :e4e:
Oh, the last bit wasn't aimed at your comment, only reflected a sudden urge to get back more solidly on the topic for form's sake and remove us from the potential for thread derailing.
Morpheus
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Actually I hadn't given it much specific thought until now, but off the top of my head I can not think of anything in NT scripture where it grants us any rights. God allows us free will, but that isn't actually a right. But life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, none of those is promised to any of us. We're told that our life might end at any moment and to always be prepared. Even the new testament gives instructions about how to treat slaves, and how slaves are to behave toward their masters; although if you can gain freedom it is preferred. As far as the pursuit of happiness goes, basically we are told to be content with what we have; that is less pursuit than it is acceptance that God will care for us even if we are dying, starving or hanging from a precipice. So unless some scripture comes to mind it does appear that the concept of "rights" is a self-serving man-made idea. The concepts of rights and humility do seem to be in conflict.
If someone wants to use OT here we need to remember that the Torah was law for the earthly kingdom of Israel. The NT is instruction about faith and doesn't include law since Christ's kingdom is not earthly. Since rights pertain to law Christ left the granting of rights to earthly kings and leaders.
If someone wants to use OT here we need to remember that the Torah was law for the earthly kingdom of Israel. The NT is instruction about faith and doesn't include law since Christ's kingdom is not earthly. Since rights pertain to law Christ left the granting of rights to earthly kings and leaders.
PureX
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No one can. Our minds are free regardless of what others may do tour bodies.
On the OP. Everything comes from GOD ! Also the NT speaks of obedience and giving account to those that watch over us. As stated in a previous msg, the law is subject to the corruption of mankind, like everything on earth. The 10 Commandments are forever in place
I didn't see usa or constitution in the thread, and don't know the anchor or the video, but i thought the constitution mentioned God. i know the writers believed in God, as did the puritans, quakers, pilgrims and most early settlers. moot - :bang:
That is definitely something that is part of what I posted.
Most of us often "assume" we know what the truth is, but more often we don't.
The U.S. Constitution does not mention God. It is clear to me that the writers of the document wanted to keep the mention of God out of it, based on their own experiences in England under King George III.
But we can think, assume or "know" whatever we want.
true, and gradually we got "in God we trust" and "one nation under God" and the colonies were started seeking mainly "religious" freedom. ironically, the King's Bible became our standard here. so technically our "rights" began in worship of God and Jesus Christ. i "assume" "most" of "founding pappys" were Christian and "heavily" "influenced" politically by the Bible. in fact, i just "know" it. -
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PureX
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Keep in mind that the early colonists were here a very long time before the revolution. And they were horribly oppressive religious communes, for the most part. Centuries of this religious oppression passed in the new world before the American revolution occurred, and that was not in response to religious oppression, but to economic oppression. And when we did create a new nation, the founders were careful not to let the religious zealotry and oppression of our then more recent past gain a ruling foothold. There are many letters attesting to this fact.true, and gradually we got "in God we trust" and "one nation under God" and the colonies were started seeking mainly "religious" freedom. ironically, the King's Bible became our standard here. so technically our "rights" began in worship of God and Jesus Christ. i "assume" "most" of "founding pappys" were Christian and "heavily" "influenced" politically by the Bible. in fact, i just "know" it. -
And the "In God We Trust" and "One nation under God" did not happen until many more years later, when we began printing standardized money, and far later still, when some politician stuck the phrase in the Pledge of Allegiance to make himself appear holier than his opponents during an election cycle.
The point being that the United States was not established for the purpose of freedom of religion in response to religious oppression in Europe. In fact, the early colonists tended to be utopian religious zealots who oppressed themselves quite severely. And the founders were careful not to let them have any power in the new nation when it was finally established. While the tradition of lip-servive to God and country is basically just the result of politician's posturing.