Jerry Shugart
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What other Gospel is it ?
You have been told a dozen time what the two gospels are. But since you cannot understand these simple things I will waste no more time with you.
What other Gospel is it ?
You have been told a dozen time what the two gospels are. But since you cannot understand these simple things I will waste no more time with you.
There is no other Gospel, since the beginning of time, its been one Faith Jude 1:3
The Twelve were preaching a gospel at a time when they did not even know the Lord Jesus was to die.
That gospel could not possibly be the same gospel which is centered on the purpose of the Lord Jesus' death upon the Cross, the one which declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
But of course all of this is way above your head since you are incapable of understanding the things of the Spirit of God:
" But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor.2:14).
There is no other Gospel, since the beginning of time, its been one Faith Jude 1:3
You are foolish because you just close your eyes to what I said here:
The Twelve were preaching a gospel at a time when they did not even know the Lord Jesus was to die.
That gospel could not possibly be the same gospel which is centered on the purpose of the Lord Jesus' death upon the Cross, the one which declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Are you really as dense as you seem to be?
Paul preached the gospel of uncircumcision
Act 18:12 But when Gallio was proconsul of Achaia, the Jews made a united attack on Paul and brought him before the tribunal,
Act 18:13 saying, "This man is persuading people to worship God contrary to the law."
The message of the cross was preached to Jew as well as Gentile (1 Corinthians 1:23-24) and was equally offensive to both.
This Jewish gospel you are proposing is bloodless and therefore possesses no power to save.
You are foolish because you just close your eyes to what I said here:
The Twelve were preaching a gospel at a time when they did not even know the Lord Jesus was to die.
That gospel could not possibly be the same gospel which is centered on the purpose of the Lord Jesus' death upon the Cross, the one which declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Are you really as dense as you seem to be?
Jerry,Yes, they are justified by grace. However, it is only the "gospel of grace" which declares that men are saved freely by His grace.
Jesus and John the Baptist preached good news (gospel). People hearing these words of good news (gospels) would not be saved until after Jesus died for their sins; and given new life after Jesus rose from the dead.
One might reasonably ask what, if anything, is substantively different between the gospels?
Anyone with the slightest degree of spiritual discernment can understand the fact that the gospel that declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus is NOT the same gospel that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.
Anyone with the slightest degree of spiritual discernment can understand the fact that the gospel that declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus is NOT the same gospel that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.
So you admit that Paul's ministry was not limited to those of the uncircumcision.
Do you also understand that those of the circumcision to whom Paul preached the gospel of the circumcision were saved by believing that gospel?
Where do you get this nonsense? Here is what the Lord Jesus said to a woman BEFORE He died and was resurrected:
"And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven. And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace" (Lk.7:48-50).You really need to read the Bible because you show that you have a very limited idea as to what is taught in the Bible.
Jerry, that's an insult disguised as an answer.
Is there a substantive difference or not?
What is sat at meat? What translation are you reading from or are you too embarrassed to say?
People hearing these words of good news (gospels) would not be saved until after Jesus died for their sins; and given new life after Jesus rose from the dead.
You are blind as a bat if you cannot even see that there is a substanative difference between the gospel that declares that believers are justified freely by grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus is NOT the same gospel that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.
You insult our intelligence if you expect anyone to believe that there is no difference between those two gospels!
So then, oh wise and discerning sage, it should be quite facile for you to articulate the differences.