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[Town Heretic]

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Right. There's your primary. And there is something I haven't done. Rather I recognize...

Recognize: to acknowledge formally.

that in our compact there is no secular objection that will meet the burden required to abrogate the right to contract marriage between homosexuals.

Town - if Patricia Todd pushes legislation to overturn Alabama Amendment 774, would you vote for it?

No.

If she assists the effort to get a court ruling overturning 774, will you volunteer to help her?

No.

 

[resurrected]

interesting


you recognize the "right" of perverts to marry but are happy to see them denied that right in your state.

 

[Eeset]

interesting


you recognize the "right" of perverts to marry but are happy to see them denied that right in your state.

Res what exactly don't you understand about Alabama?

 

[Town Heretic]

interesting

you recognize the "right" of perverts to marry but are happy to see them denied that right in your state.

Rather, I recognize that as a matter of law there's no justification for the abrogation, but as a matter of conscience I can't move against the law existent. I know eventually that law will fail and that within the confines of the compact it has to, but I don't have to be an active part of it.

 

[resurrected]

Rather, I recognize that as a matter of law there's no justification for the abrogation, but as a matter of conscience I can't move against the law existent. I know eventually that law will fail and that within the confines of the compact it has to, but I don't have to be an active part of it.

if you believe that the "compact" inevitably leads to laws contrary to God, do you still defend the "compact"?


and I'm sure you realize that the originators of the "compact" had no intention of seeing it develop into the abomination it has become

 

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Res what exactly don't you understand about Alabama?

everything I know about Alabama I learned from South Park

 

[chrysostom]

Rather, I recognize that as a matter of law there's no justification for the abrogation, but as a matter of conscience I can't move against the law existent. I know eventually that law will fail and that within the confines of the compact it has to, but I don't have to be an active part of it.

there's no justification for the abrogation of simplification
and
I don't have to be an active part of it

 

[serpentdove]

everything I know about Alabama I learned from South Park

Welcome back. :jump:

A few housekeeping items:

I do not put complete posts on TOL.

 

[serpentdove]

I never bother wasting my time by clicking on your links.

That's a shame.

Isa 2:19-21

"Bat (Rémi GAILLARD)

And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth [Isa. 2:19].

"The Book of Revelation repeats what man will do in that day of judgment: “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb” (Rev. 6:15–16).

All you see on television today has to do with the political economy, government, commerce, art, the pomp and pride of man—and the religion of man. The day is coming when all of man’s pride is going to be brought low, and the Lord Jesus Christ will be exalted on earth. Today He is not being given His proper place in government, in society, in business, in art, or in the pomp and ceremony of the world—or even in the religion of the world, He is left out today. When He comes again, men are going to run for the caves of the earth. I don’t know whether men were ever cavemen or not, but a day is coming in the future when men are going back to the caves." McGee, J. V. (1997). Thru the Bible commentary (electronic ed.) (Is 2:19). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

 

[rainee]

Rather, I recognize that as a matter of law there's no justification for the abrogation, but as a matter of conscience I can't move against the law existent. I know eventually that law will fail and that within the confines of the compact it has to, but I don't have to be an active part of it.

Oh, man. I should stay out but I would really like to talk about this in my way . please? Ok?

First let's point out TH is zeroed in on Res - the moment Res is back and posts - TH is instantly here to rebut. One could get jealous if they were an attention hound...


Next may we talk about this subject matter???
First, Alabama must not be picked on as a State. Football, yes, state - no. Thank you, end of subject.

Last and not least - It Is The Evil One who is putting out into the airwaves that marriage should be for all.
IOW this thinking is like sisters could marry, fathers and daughters could marry (if they prove they will not bring deformed or genetically harmed or weakened children into the world) and so forth. This thinking makes everything possible because of the lie that it it is only fair.
Marriage was not fair.

I think it is still illegal to get a divorce in the Philippines?

Yes I think so.
They have or had a strong Catholic background is the reason for it, I've been told. Thas right...

All you have to do is put forth a motion to make divorce more difficult -- like it used to be in reality here -

Or make it a "till death do you part' legal contract here like it still is in some places and guess who ain't going to be getting married??

Guess?

And the evil one will not be able to fool any one through that one, I bet... we may be deceive-able as humans but we ain't really stupid about our being told what to do or what we can't do..

In fact, now that so many have gotten married in California - move forward with a law there making divorce near impossible and very costly (again.) lol Will it look like rats stuck on a sinking ship?

Marriage is hard I believe with some great rewards that have to be.. cultivated, I guess? Maybe it is like a garden?
:idunno: But it is life altering in it's dynamics, right? You know. Do the schmucks lining up for marriage licenses even have the ability to do something that hard? I doubt it.

 

[Town Heretic]

if you believe that the "compact" inevitably leads to laws contrary to God, do you still defend the "compact"?

I don't believe any government constituted by men will ever get it completely right. Expecting it to would be like expecting pure water to come out of a mostly clean vessel. But I also think that in the history of man few compacts have tried harder at getting it right than ours and I don't know of a standing government on earth better.

So of course I'll defend the compact. It's gotten any number of things horribly wrong, but it has a way of correcting over time and I think it will continue to make those corrections, God willing.

and I'm sure you realize that the originators of the "compact" had no intention of seeing it develop into the abomination it has become

They meant for it to be a country ruled by a landed gentry, with slavery and one gender dominance/rights for all/men. So you can set aside the good old days if you're a student of history. They started something remarkable with the potential to be even more so and they deserve praise for it, but they shouldn't be confused with saints or venerated.

there's no justification for the abrogation of simplification
and
I don't have to be an active part of it

He said, needlessly complicating his text with awkward format and a lack of punctuation. Or, blow it out of your ear, Charley. :thumb: Do your best to keep up. If you can't, sit by the road until someone comes along to give you a ride.

 

[Town Heretic]

Oh, man. I should stay out but...

Nature of the thing, rainee. Hop on board and what can I do for you?

First let's point out TH is zeroed in on Res - the moment Res is back and posts - TH is instantly here to rebut.

That's just not true, rainee. Res is posting better than fifty posts a day, nearly a hundred on some and has been for a while. Yesterday was a slow day for him at fifty one posts, while I posted a blistering thirteen. lain:

I responded to a couple of his intentional misstatements and direct questions but not a couple like this:

you'd think he'd a least pop in to make a "clever" comment or claim that the exception proves the rule or blather on about how you misunderstood his "argument"

I hope he's ok

If you post in any interesting and active thread you're going to post around him. Now when I see myself referenced by him I answer him if I think there's a point, but I don't even always bother with that.

But if what you believe to be true was in fact true I'd have as many posts as he and it's not even close to that. He's about four to one on average and more since summer kicked in.

All you have to do is put forth a motion to make divorce more difficult -- like it used to be in reality here -

We're not really in disagreement over the morality point and marriage so moving to this one. I know that when I was in active practice I'd literally counsel people to get counselling through their church and to take serious time for reflection, especially if the couple was young, absent evidence of physical abuse.

I lost a few clients over that. Some to other lawyers and some to reconciliation. A few of the latter are still happy to see me.

I actually agree with you that if divorce were a more serious matter and required a great deal more effort (and if the offending party was more heavily penalized when fault was found and divorce granted) we'd see fewer of them and fewer quick marriages.

 

[resurrected]

First let's point out TH is zeroed in on Res - the moment Res is back and posts - TH is instantly here to rebut.

That's just not true, rainee. Res is posting better than fifty posts a day, nearly a hundred on some and has been for a while. Yesterday was a slow day for him at fifty one posts, while I posted a blistering thirteen. lain:

rainee - it's been amusing to watch Town demonstrate his compulsive obsession over my post count and I suddenly had an insight.

I believe Town is so infuriated by my posting frequency because it makes it difficult for him to keep track of what I post. Now, why he would care to is a question for his shrink, but it's plain to see that he does.

You see, the search function only displays my last 100 posts, so if Town skips a day he's apt to miss a post of mine that he might want to respond to.

And knowing that I'm making posts that are going un-rebutted just sends him into a tizzy. :chuckle:



I'm really going to miss the silly little bugger

 

[resurrected]

if you believe that the "compact" inevitably leads to laws contrary to God, do you still defend the "compact"?

... of course I'll defend the compact.

:nono:

...it has a way of correcting over time...

propose a scenario in which homo marriage becomes illegal again

 

[Town Heretic]

:nono:

Show me a better one in existence. We haven't had the religious wars of Europe or elsewhere while every man has been able to believe and profess his belief freely.

propose a scenario in which homo marriage becomes illegal again

I don't see one. It's going to be a matter between a man and his conscience, between any person and God.

 

[Town Heretic]

rainee - it's been amusing to watch Town demonstrate his compulsive obsession over my post count and I suddenly had an insight.

I believe Town is so infuriated by my posting frequency because it makes it difficult for him to keep track of what I post. Now, why he would care to is a question for his shrink, but it's plain to see that he does.

You believe anything that serves that chip on your shoulder, but it's as imaginary and unsupported in fact as are most of your bits, usually reflective of your own habits instead of the person you project on.

By way of example, after loudly decrying interacting with me, making a wrist to head swooning declaration it made you "physically ill" you proceeded to camp out in Quixote's.

You see, the search function only displays my last 100 posts, so if Town skips a day he's apt to miss a post of mine that he might want to respond to.

Rather, as an objective and mathematical truth, I don't respond to the vast majority of what you do here.

I'm really going to miss the silly little bugger

Where are you going? Or, more to the happy point, when?

 

[chrysostom]

First let's point out TH is zeroed in on Res - the moment Res is back and posts - TH is instantly here to rebut. .

I noticed that

 

[dreadknought]

The conversation needs it's own TOL Battle Royale TOWN VS KOSODRES.

 

[Town Heretic]

I noticed that

I notice that neither of you actually manage to make the case beyond declaring it and that, again, the numbers and facts are against you.

But then you've never let a little thing like facts get in the way of...whatever it is you do here. lain:

 

[resurrected]

The conversation needs it's own TOL Battle Royale TOWN VS KOSODRES.

oh please :carryon:




it's resodko


spoken with a stern Japanese father type accent